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evergruven 05-11-2019 03:30 PM

"Outsville needs your help to fight facebook censorship"
 
from an email I got..fyi

"We need your help!
Outsville.com has been blacklisted by facebook's algorithm by accident which is reducing our traffic by 90%. FB Support thinks Outsville may be confused with outting LGBT members without consent so it has permanently removed all of the content that contained our domain address.

What can you do?
Please goto facebook if you have an account and try and post outsville.com on your page and then click the request review when the above message appears.
Please Also forward this email to all of your pool playing friends to help us with store traffic. The Shop Sale button take you to our sale items for May. "

slach 05-11-2019 04:11 PM

Amazing, but sad! 'Outsville' - great name, though appears the Facebook folk don't play much pool. Probably to busy playing with themselves.

Following your suggestion now... hope others do too...

Texas Carom Club 05-11-2019 04:22 PM

Strange
Stupid

Just gonna have to change the company name or be off facebook entirely

PRED 05-11-2019 04:23 PM

Run out City

sjm 05-11-2019 04:40 PM

Truly a shame for the good people at Outsville. Hope this is resolved promptly.

I always hate it when racking templates are deemed so politically incorrect.

slach 05-11-2019 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Carom Club (Post 6395137)
Strange
Stupid

Just gonna have to change the company name or be off facebook entirely

Outsville a built pretty well known brand with with a number of great products. Don't let the 'politically (in)correct' lefty jags at Facebook control your life. Hate to say, but Facebook is the largest marketing outlet for small one-line companies, not too many other options. Don't give up without a fight.

Texas Carom Club 05-11-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slach (Post 6395143)
Outsville a built pretty well known brand with with a number of great products. Don't let the 'politically (in)correct' lefty jags at Facebook control your life. Hate to say, but Facebook is the largest marketing outlet for small one-line companies, not too many other options. Don't give up without a fight.

And they (fb) will gladly defend those who will complain as they are on the same side


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couldnthinkof01 05-11-2019 05:11 PM

Make sure to tell the people at facebook the outsville
team has had their FEELINGS hurt and they are OFFENDED. These words should get them out
of this little jam.

What a joke. Hopefully this can be resolved quickly and
their business is not affected too much.

poolhustler 05-11-2019 05:14 PM

The more time goes on the more I hate FB.

skip100 05-11-2019 08:11 PM

An algorithm broke, it'll get worked out. Calm down everyone.

conetip 05-11-2019 08:31 PM

A NZ band Shihad, were forced to change their name because of Isis and Jihad, lol

RiverCity 05-11-2019 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip100 (Post 6395225)
An algorithm broke, it'll get worked out. Calm down everyone.

Shhhhhh, stop trying to make sense. Panic and drama are the norm around here buddy boy. :thumbup:

dnixon 05-12-2019 02:14 AM

Now that’s a hate crime. Come on Facebook!

bioactive 05-12-2019 07:03 AM

It posted fine for me.

JolietJames 05-12-2019 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip100 (Post 6395225)
An algorithm broke, it'll get worked out. Calm down everyone.

They should not have algorithms running that are designed to censor people in the first place. They should let the market decide who succeeds and fails. Of course that wouldn't be fair to the dumb, less ambitious members, so it won't be allowed.

It's a shame millions of small businesses have to censor themselves to stay above water due to the thought police -I mean social media.

Best of luck to Chris and the rest of the Outsville family.

If I did Nerdbook I would try to help.

skip100 05-12-2019 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolietJames (Post 6395433)
They should not have algorithms running that are designed to censor people in the first place. They should let the market decide who succeeds and fails.

Nice to hear that you support allowing ISIS and Al Qaeda to use Facebook as a recruitment platform. After all, the marketplace of ideas will punish them.

:rolleyes:

Back in the real world, I'm having no trouble accessing the Outsville Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Outsville/

newcuer 05-13-2019 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolietJames (Post 6395433)
They should not have algorithms running that are designed to censor people in the first place. They should let the market decide who succeeds and fails. Of course that wouldn't be fair to the dumb, less ambitious members, so it won't be allowed.

It's a shame millions of small businesses have to censor themselves to stay above water due to the thought police -I mean social media.

Facebook is not the gov't. They are a private business. You can't have censorship or your first amendment rights broken by a private business.

kaznj 05-13-2019 04:58 AM

Maybe they don't like one piece tips. Maybe the don't like round chalk.

Chip Roberson 05-13-2019 05:11 AM

Well, if ya do change the name of the company, be careful in doing so. Since you carry those great caliber tips, I was thinking.....High Caliber.....might be a great name,,and then it struck me,,might be confused with an NRA ad,,

Dan_B 05-13-2019 09:55 AM

I thought refusal to trade was an illegal act in the public marketplace?
Seems like a good winnable law suit if F***b^^k is refusing to accept you as a paying advertiser.

Predictions are that it will be broken up to a news division and some kind of something
else with a blockchain permission consensus to speak, post. Translation - a CNN where
the diaper change will rub up against the climate change, vaporizing itself into a black hole... ...just guessing.

One choosing where to trade is a big deal,
performing efficiencies' in perfecting product sustainability has its merits way beyond a
dying identity of it's free to use.

The Renfro 05-13-2019 05:16 PM

I want to Thank everyone who stepped in and asked FB to review our site.... The issue was finally worked out Saturday afternoon and we were placed on the white list so the algorithm will leave us alone...

FB took us out Monday and as far as I can tell it was related to someone else's post that had our domain and a photo of our "Make Pool Great Again" hat. Her post was removed and when she reposted we were blacklisted and her post was removed again.... The other possibility floated by a FB tech is that the algorithm thought that Outsville might have been a term for outting members of the LGBT community without their consesnt...

They never could tell me what it flagged but they could tell me that we had not been reported for anything on any of our accounts and none of them had "notes" so it was not anyone being vindictive or trying to play PC police....

It has opened my eyes that our decision to stay small has to be revisited. I like being able to make small changes as more pro players use our products and give us feedback.. This has kept us from looking to larger retailers like Seyberts and Pooldawg since I don't want anyone stuck with a bunch of inventory and "there he goes changing chit again". That will change 3rd or 4th quarter more than likely.....

Hope all of you are doing well and shooting them straight... We have a few things coming but man R&D is slow going right now as we are staying busy.. Who knew if you started a pool and billiards company you likely would never have much time to play the game after that =)

Thanks again =)

Cory in DC 05-13-2019 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip100 (Post 6395225)
An algorithm broke, it'll get worked out. Calm down everyone.

Good prediction and advice!

AkGuy 05-13-2019 11:49 PM

Hey!
 
The best way to fight Face Book is to not be a part of it. I have never been a part of it and life is good. Don't need it and don't want it and don't understand the worlds addiction to it.

There are other venues.

Just saying....

hang-the-9 05-14-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newcuer (Post 6395680)
Facebook is not the gov't. They are a private business. You can't have censorship or your first amendment rights broken by a private business.

Except that they can since all those things are still under some laws for decency and hate speech and what the platform allows. Business are still regulated to make sure they don't discriminate with hiring and firing and can set their own rules for what is OK or not. For example the forums, you can certainly post things that are rude and annoying here but there is no law that will keep you or anyone else from being banned by the mods.

JolietJames 05-14-2019 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip100 (Post 6395459)
Nice to hear that you support allowing ISIS and Al Qaeda to use Facebook as a recruitment platform. After all, the marketplace of ideas will punish them.

:rolleyes:

Back in the real world, I'm having no trouble accessing the Outsville Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Outsville/

Dumbest post I've read on AZB. Congrats, that is quite an achievement. We're talking about outsville, not aloha snackbar

M.G. 05-14-2019 03:24 PM

If you rely on a privately controlled company with arbitray self-interests and no strict money-for-service contracts for your business, you deserve to be bitten in the ass.

If you think that "traffic" has to do anything with "success" or you rely on ads for you business, you deserver to have your nose bitten off.

Please rely on something else to drive your business, for example, real stores selling your stuff :smile:

skip100 05-14-2019 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolietJames (Post 6396535)
Dumbest post I've read on AZB. Congrats, that is quite an achievement. We're talking about outsville, not aloha snackbar

https://i.imgur.com/ejuTHOn.jpg

At any rate, it's good to hear (and unsurprising) that this got worked out.

Bob Jewett 05-14-2019 06:02 PM

In related Facebook news, this just in over the wires (in case you missed it):
A vulnerability in Facebook's WhatsApp messaging app made it possible for attackers to spread surveillance software to mobile devices through a phone call.

While WhatsApp users cannot check whether their device was affected, there are certain red flags users can spot that may indicate a mobile device is being manipulated by a third party.


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