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SpiderWebComm 05-27-2020 05:18 AM

CTE Does NOT Work - It Did For One Pro
 
ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK as taught!! 100%!!!

I got an email from Stan a while back and this is what it said:

I have never shared the following story publicly. In 2009 Gerda Hofstatter decided that she wanted to win again on the pro tour.

It had been ten years since Gerda had graced the winner’s circle...too long in her mind.

A friend/student of mine urged Gerda to contact me if she really wanted to win again.

Gerda contacted me in late 2009 (early 2010) and shared with me that she wanted to break her ten year winless drought. She said that she was told that I could help her to win again.

We set up a three day training for the month of January 2010.

A few weeks later Gerda came through my pool room door saying, “I want to win again.” I’m thinking, “tough order” but I will give it my all.

We divided our three days of time between PRO ONE, stroke, banking, and kicking. To this day, Gerda is as good of a student that has ever passed through my facility door. She left Kentucky with a ton of new information and a manual full of notes to back up her experience under my direction. The lessons did not stop there as we continued our work via phone conversations and email diagrams.

What follows is a little hard to fathom, but in March of 2010, a couple of months later, Gerda snapped off the very next WPBA event that took place in San Diego, CA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerda_Hofst%C3%A4tter

The idea that permeates the minds of some simpletons that pros are pros and have nothing to learn is ridiculous. Pros often represent the best of what being a great student is all about. Pros are not always the easiest to get into a classroom, but once their attention is gained, extraordinary advancements can transpire.

Dan White 05-27-2020 05:33 AM

Nice story! The main ingredient of course is the first thing she said. "She wants to win again." You gotta have that to get back into winning shape.

Low500 05-27-2020 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm (Post 6659733)
ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK as taught!! 100%!!!
I got an email from Stan a while back and this is what it said:
I have never shared the following story publicly. In 2009 Gerda Hofstatter decided that she wanted to win again on the pro tour.
It had been ten years since Gerda had graced the winner’s circle...too long in her mind.
A friend/student of mine urged Gerda to contact me if she really wanted to win again.
Gerda contacted me in late 2009 (early 2010) and shared with me that she wanted to break her ten year winless drought. She said that she was told that I could help her to win again.
We set up a three day training for the month of January 2010.
A few weeks later Gerda came through my pool room door saying, “I want to win again.” I’m thinking, “tough order” but I will give it my all.
We divided our three days of time between PRO ONE, stroke, banking, and kicking. To this day, Gerda is as good of a student that has ever passed through my facility door. She left Kentucky with a ton of new information and a manual full of notes to back up her experience under my direction. The lessons did not stop there as we continued our work via phone conversations and email diagrams.
What follows is a little hard to fathom, but in March of 2010, a couple of months later, Gerda snapped off the very next WPBA event that took place in San Diego, CA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerda_Hofst%C3%A4tter
The idea that permeates the minds of some simpletons that pros are pros and have nothing to learn is ridiculous. Pros often represent the best of what being a great student is all about. Pros are not always the easiest to get into a classroom, but once their attention is gained, extraordinary advancements can transpire.

:thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2:
Pros are Pros because they have open minds and are always looking for an edge. C.J. Wiley tells people that over and over...."when you're involved in an endeavor to make the house payment or the car note, you better know something that separates you from the other guy who is trying to do the same thing"
When pool Pros find an edge they put in the table time and sweat equity to incorporate it into their playing.
Tools for their livelihood......just as a surgeon knows how to tie a surgeon's knot or a welder knows how to control the heat on the torch.

BC21 05-27-2020 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan White (Post 6659741)
Nice story! The main ingredient of course is the first thing she said. "She wants to win again." You gotta have that to get back into winning shape.

In 2009 she won the European Straight Pool Championship. She's in the Hall of Fame for a reason. Champion player, very talented.

SpiderWebComm 05-27-2020 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BC21 (Post 6659758)
In 2009 she won the European Straight Pool Championship. She's in the Hall of Fame for a reason. Champion player, very talented.

True, but Gerda had not won on the WPBA TOUR in 10 years which is what she wanted to do again.

Hall of Famers and other top pros have ups and downs and eventually declines.

It was HER idea and desire to take the lessons from Stan because she wasn't clicking on all cylinders like she used to. 10 years is a big drought for a world ranked top 3 player.

(is this the start of some knocking under the guise of praise? Just wondering...)

Low500 05-27-2020 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm (Post 6659773)
True, but Gerda had not won on the WPBA TOUR in 10 years which is what she wanted to do again.
Hall of Famers and other top pros have ups and downs and eventually declines.
It was HER idea and desire to take the lessons from Stan because she wasn't clicking on all cylinders like she used to. 10 years is a big drought for a world ranked top 3 player.
(is this the start of some knocking under the guise of praise? Just wondering...)

:thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2:
SpiderMan, you have keen instincts like a jungle cat.

SpiderWebComm 05-27-2020 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Low500 (Post 6659788)
:thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2:
SpiderMan, you have keen instincts like a jungle cat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXkGSc6d0xQ

Cmate 05-27-2020 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm (Post 6659733)

I got an email from Stan a while back...

Of course you did, now eat your Jello.

BC21 05-27-2020 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm (Post 6659773)
True, but Gerda had not won on the WPBA TOUR in 10 years which is what she wanted to do again.

Hall of Famers and other top pros have ups and downs and eventually declines.

It was HER idea and desire to take the lessons from Stan because she wasn't clicking on all cylinders like she used to. 10 years is a big drought for a world ranked top 3 player.

(is this the start of some knocking under the guise of praise? Just wondering...)

You're right, ups and downs for sure, but she has always been in the top 4 or top 8 in about every tournament she's ever played. And to win the 2009 European Straight Pool Championship.... she wasn't exactly sputtering on just a few cylinders.

I'm sure Stan helped her, but it's not a knock to CTE to state the reality of how great of a player she's been since the mid 1990's. I honestly don't believe she reformated her entire aiming method between winning a championship in 2009 and then winning again in March 2010. Stan has a good reputation for being an all-around instructor, so I'd say he helped her a little as far as getting more in tune with her psr or any other issues he might have noticed.

Like I said, my comments are no knock to Stan or CTE one bit. I'm just pointing that it's a little misleading for you to suggest Gerda was all washed up and came to Stan begging to learn CTE so she could aim pool balls in a more professional manner. Lol. She's a Hall of Fame player who for better than 10 years had to compete with Allison Fisher, Karen Core, Jennette Lee, Kelly Fisher, etc.... but she was always near the top of the heap. When champions compete against each other the results are often as predictable as a coin toss.

SpiderWebComm 05-27-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BC21 (Post 6659824)
You're right, ups and downs for sure, but she has always been in the top 4 or top 8 in about every tournament she's ever played. And to win the 2009 European Straight Pool Championship.... she wasn't exactly sputtering on just a few cylinders.

She thought she was. Your thinking means NOTHING. Winners want to WIN, not finish 4 through 8. Again, she hadn't WON on the WPBA in 10 years which really bothered her.

I'm sure Stan helped her,

No you aren't because it's where you've always been coming from with Stan and CTE. How many pros have come to YOU for helping their game?
Huh? None? How many pros even know your name or care?


but it's not a knock to CTE to state the reality of how great of a player she's been since the mid 1990's. I honestly don't believe she reformated her entire aiming method between winning a championship in 2009 and then winning again in March 2010.

Think what you want but she did. HERE COMES THE KNOCKING! She won the 14.1 title in 2009. A completely different thought process, knowledge, and skill level from rotation games. It's all up close and basically using 1/2 the table.

Stan has a good reputation for being an all-around instructor, so I'd say he helped her a little as far as getting more in tune with her psr.

They didn't work on PSR. They worked SPECIFICALLY on CTE PRO1, banking, and kicking.

Like I said, my comments are no knock to Stan or CTE one bit. I'm just pointing that it's a little misleading for you to suggest Gerda was all washed up and came to Stan begging to learn CTE so she could aim pool balls in a more professional manner. Lol. She's a Hall of Fame player who had to compete with Allison Fisher, Karen Core, Jennette Lee, Kelly Fisher, etc.... and she was always near the top of the heap.

Gerda was the one who called for the lessons. SHE is the only one who knew what was going through her mind...not you of all people.

You have ALWAYS talked out of both sides of your mouth and you're doing it again right here.

What happened to you not posting in the aiming forum and especially getting involved with CTE? Yeah, you are to be trusted for your word alright.

garczar 05-27-2020 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm (Post 6659733)
ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK as taught!! 100%!!!

I got an email from Stan a while back and this is what it said:

I have never shared the following story publicly. In 2009 Gerda Hofstatter decided that she wanted to win again on the pro tour.

It had been ten years since Gerda had graced the winner’s circle...too long in her mind.

A friend/student of mine urged Gerda to contact me if she really wanted to win again.

Gerda contacted me in late 2009 (early 2010) and shared with me that she wanted to break her ten year winless drought. She said that she was told that I could help her to win again.

We set up a three day training for the month of January 2010.

A few weeks later Gerda came through my pool room door saying, “I want to win again.” I’m thinking, “tough order” but I will give it my all.

We divided our three days of time between PRO ONE, stroke, banking, and kicking. To this day, Gerda is as good of a student that has ever passed through my facility door. She left Kentucky with a ton of new information and a manual full of notes to back up her experience under my direction. The lessons did not stop there as we continued our work via phone conversations and email diagrams.

What follows is a little hard to fathom, but in March of 2010, a couple of months later, Gerda snapped off the very next WPBA event that took place in San Diego, CA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerda_Hofst%C3%A4tter

The idea that permeates the minds of some simpletons that pros are pros and have nothing to learn is ridiculous. Pros often represent the best of what being a great student is all about. Pros are not always the easiest to get into a classroom, but once their attention is gained, extraordinary advancements can transpire.

Don't break your arm while pattin' yourself on the back.;) Just kidding. CTE is great for some. I use parts of it but not all.

SpiderWebComm 05-27-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by garczar (Post 6659844)
Don't break your arm while pattin' yourself on the back.;) Just kidding. CTE is great for some. I use parts of it but not all.

Gerda patted Stan on the back with a very heart warming and thankful letter a few years later.

I'm certain you would use more parts if you knew more parts and implemented it into your game.

BC21 05-27-2020 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm (Post 6659832)
Gerda was the one who called for the lessons. SHE is the only one who knew what was going through her mind...not you of all people.

You have ALWAYS talked out of both sides of your mouth and you're doing it again right here.

What happened to you not posting in the aiming forum and especially getting involved with CTE? Yeah, you are to be trusted for your word alright.


And there's the attack. When a good honest point is made, your response is always the same... Attack attack attack!

I never said I wasn't going to post in the aiming forum. I said I was finished arguing about CTE because it's pointless. Grow up little spider...there's a big world out there where most people live in reality.

SpiderWebComm 05-27-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BC21 (Post 6659854)
And there's the attack. When a good honest point is made, your response is always the same... Attack attack attack! Lol

I never said I wasn't going to post in the aiming forum. I said I was finished arguing about CTE because it's pointless.

But here you are knocking it by not acknowledging the fact that CTE was an integral part of her training. Your comment being about PSR when it in fact WAS CTE PRO1 as well as using CTE PRO1 for BANKING. So you're doing something you do frequently and are quite adept at...LYING and trying to mask it with bullshit.


Here we go, the SPIN JOB to REVERSE it and place blame elsewhere. You were the first one to go on the attack with your typical veiled back hand snide remarks. Doesn't take much to read between the lines as far as where you were going with it. And you DID.

You made NO honest point that had merit. The honest points all came from GERDA herself. NOT YOU Monday morning quarterbacking from something that happened 10 years ago between Stan and Gerda PERSONALLY.

It was just a matter of time before one or more of the FAB5 was going to come into a thread about CTE and run it into the ground. Surely the rest of the gang will start flowing in to back your crap up and take it into the septic tank the way NPR went. What's new?

Low500 05-27-2020 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm (Post 6659832)
Gerda was the one who called for the lessons. SHE is the only one who knew what was going through her mind...not you of all people.
[B][COLOR="Black"]What happened to you not posting in the aiming forum and especially getting involved with CTE?,<==BINGO

:thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2:
The power of CTE is overwhelming....that bunch cannot control themselves.
They always just got to "have the last word".
(all in the name of "civil discourse and constructive debate" of course):shakehead:


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