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Jonas111 01-08-2019 10:08 PM

Please Help Me Fix My STROKE
 
Can someone recommend the right person to help me fix my stroke. I am a fairly decent player right now but have a weekness with my stroke. Most definitely at the end of the stroke. I recorded it tonight and watched it and was blown away how bad it is.

I Would like someone that really knows the technical parts of stroke and help me get my stroke to finish through the shot properly. I have always felt this is my largest weekness to reach a higher level.

Thanks in advance

DTL 01-09-2019 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonas111 (Post 6303920)
Can someone recommend the right person to help me fix my stroke. I am a fairly decent player right now but have a weekness with my stroke. Most definitely at the end of the stroke. I recorded it tonight and watched it and was blown away how bad it is.

I Would like someone that really knows the technical parts of stroke and help me get my stroke to finish through the shot properly. I have always felt this is my largest weekness to reach a higher level.

Thanks in advance

The end of the stroke has nothing to do with the outcome of the shot. If there is a 'problem at the end of the stroke", it is a result of a problem at the beginning of the stroke.

The CB is on it's way to the OB 0.001 second after tip contact. The part of the stroke that determines the outcome starts at the end of the final backswing and the beginning of the final forward stroke up until tip contact with the CB. At tip contact, the speed, angle of the stick, and placement on the CB determines where the CB goes. Bridge placement is very important and hitting the CB where you want is essential (about 3mm area, tough to do). An accelerating tip up until CB contact is important.....decelerating is a killer.

What happens after tip contact (follow through) is just a result of what happened before contact. The tip is slowed down a lot due to contact and often times is deflected right or left due to putting side spin on the CB......this can be deceiving when watching on film.

JMO, I'm not an instructor. Find a good instructor to help you with stroke fundamentals......cueing on a straight line. Could be alignment or grip issues.

Jonas111 01-09-2019 06:22 AM

I am in an area that doesn’t have instructors. Hoping there is someone that might be able to help with online videos.

I do hear what your saying. I have a motion on my way to the cue ball that would make it hard to be consistent hitting the cue ball exactly where I expect too.

DTL 01-09-2019 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonas111 (Post 6304030)
I am in an area that doesn’t have instructors. Hoping there is someone that might be able to help with online videos.

I do hear what your saying. I have a motion on my way to the cue ball that would make it hard to be consistent hitting the cue ball exactly where I expect too.

There are a lot of very good snooker instructional videos on youtube......Nic Barrow, Barry Starks, others. Watch all you can, especially the ones on the grip......how the back fingers move (unfurl/close) during the stroke.

Plan a trip to the Derby City Classic one year and set up a meeting with an instructor while you're there. Stan Shuffett, Mark Wilson, Jerry Briesath come to mind.

Here's a good one on the grip (part 4......watch all of them). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLZMClojds

Jonas111 01-09-2019 06:56 AM

Thank you very much for that. I appreciate it.

Prairie dog 01-09-2019 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonas111 (Post 6303920)
Can someone recommend the right person to help me fix my stroke. I am a fairly decent player right now but have a weekness with my stroke. Most definitely at the end of the stroke. I recorded it tonight and watched it and was blown away how bad it is.

I Would like someone that really knows the technical parts of stroke and help me get my stroke to finish through the shot properly. I have always felt this is my largest weekness to reach a higher level.

Thanks in advance

You are not that far from Portland, Oregon and I know a fantastic teacher there. I had a stroke issue until yesterday and he fixed it.

Jonas111 01-09-2019 10:12 AM

I hope to do that someday. With kids and business I don't have a lot of time at the moment. I do a lot of practice at home on my 9' table.

Hoping to stay a solid amateur player and possibly scare the odd full time player.

Patrick Johnson 01-09-2019 10:33 AM

Something that has helped me straighten out my stroke:

Imagine you're tossing the cue underhanded, like a spear. For me that seems to get my body into the correct position for a naturally straight stroking motion along my line of sight.

pj
chgo

Prairie dog 01-09-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Johnson (Post 6304255)
Something that has helped me straighten out my stroke:

Imagine you're tossing the cue underhanded, like a spear. For me that seems to get my body into the correct position for a naturally straight stroking motion along my line of sight.

pj
chgo

The stroke issue is easy to tell if you have a problem. Set the cue ball in the middle of the table 2 diamonds out and aim at the end rail with a fine marker denoting the diamond. Strike the CB with break speed and see what happens when you do it a few times. You'll probably end up on the right side or the left side consistently. If that is the case, try to shorten your bridge and see it that helps until you can get help. I practice this daily. No sense playing pool without a straight stroke.

Buzzard II 01-09-2019 02:29 PM

1. Contact Scott Lee. If he can't go that far north he will know of a SPF instructor close by.
2. Try using a AcCueShot. Ozone carries them.

KenRobbins 01-09-2019 06:12 PM

Stan Shuffett explains the stroke structure well, along with his grip video. His stroke video. https://youtu.be/KPxChKVxSSo

Patrick Johnson 01-09-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Prairie dog (Post 6304263)
The stroke issue is easy to tell if you have a problem. Set the cue ball in the middle of the table 2 diamonds out and aim at the end rail with a fine marker denoting the diamond. Strike the CB with break speed and see what happens when you do it a few times.

That's a revealing drill, especially if you use a striped ball as your "CB" with the stripe vertical to show any wobble from even a slightly off center hit. Try it at all speeds.

I practice seeing my shaft's movement in my peripheral vision to "live monitor" it for straightness and accuracy - I aim my stroke.

pj
chgo

Low500 01-10-2019 11:08 AM

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JoeyInCali 01-10-2019 11:56 AM

Would hole reinforcers help you ?
Place one some 8 inches over the foot spot marker and one 8 inches or so below in line to the farthest corner pocket .
Bridge on the bottom reinforcer with the cue ball on the head spot.
Shoot dead straight to an object ball and let the tip rest on the other hole reinforcer .
It helped me a ton.


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