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andrewnormore 06-20-2012 02:00 PM

Boriz Cues - Made in the Philippines
 
Hello Everyone,

I have had an opportunity recently to get back into playing pool. I have found a team in my local league and I'm ready to go.

I sold all of my cues when I first moved away and so I started shopping ebay for a low cost solution. I have become obsessed with getting the best deal.

I finally placed a bid on a Boriz cue, made in the Philippines. I once bought a Richmond cue and thought highly of it.

I have not found a review from somebody who has actually shot with one of these cues but I have noticed quite a few sold, and a few people from the US selling them.

Can anybody shed some light on these cues from first hand experience?

CocoboloCowboy 06-20-2012 02:38 PM

Let me make two comments about what I have observed about Made in the Philippines, that have come to live in Hot, Dry No Humidity Arizona.

Many of the Cuemakers in the Philippines do not build in climate controled shops, so when these Cues arrrive in Arizona many warp even if they are taken care of by the new owner.

Many of the Cue I have seen that were made in the Philippines are just great s far as workmanship goes.

But if you live in Arizona think about the problem mentioned above about warping bcause of are unique Dry Climate..

andrewnormore 06-20-2012 04:15 PM

Climate
 
I live in Newfoudland, Canada. We have a very moist climate so I don't think I'll have too much concern in that regard. However, it is interesting to note that the seller offers free shaft replacement if the shaft is warped due to the change in climate shipping overseas.

Quesports 06-20-2012 06:27 PM

A NEWFIE on AZ holy mutha of god what are things coming to?? Welcome aboard did ya bring some SKREECH?

andrewnormore 06-20-2012 06:55 PM

I don't leave home without my screech!

Chopdoc 06-20-2012 07:46 PM

These are lower grade cues from Pampanga, an area where there are many local makers. Some of the better PI cue makers got there start there I believe and there are a lot of cue making "roots" there from what I know.

They are "fun" cues. Novelties. Not great cues. You may get one that plays decent...and you may get one that lasts...but more likely not. Construction quality, materials, and methods are all generally marginal in this genre of cues.

If you want a good player you can certainly do much better, even in that price range. If you prefer a cue from PI there are some excellent makers....but this isn't them.


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Snapshot9 06-20-2012 10:03 PM

Websites
 
http://www.borizcustom.com

http://www.fark.com/comments/3001455...mission-to-buy

http://poolcuesonsale.net/boriz-snak...aids-hand-dxx/

page down some: http://www.ioffer.com/i/lux-custom-p...61?source=eisi

andrewnormore 06-21-2012 04:08 AM

I appreciate the comments and I am aware of what everybody is saying. The thing I would really like to know is if anybody has any first had experience with this particular manufacturer?

Also, I'm either going to fit this cue with a Predator 314-2 as I have used in the past, or the Katana shaft, as the reviews of the Katana shaft seem promising and it's pretty much half price of the Predator when I include shipping and customs charges. I've heard comments such as "a predator shaft can make a good cue out of a broom handle."

Any thoughts?

andrewnormore 06-21-2012 04:12 AM

Also, given the fact that I am in Newfoundland and I have to order a cue from the internet without being able to hold it, what would you call a "good cue" in the $100 price range? Keeping in mind that I will fit it with a LD shaft.

Sorry for all the questions but I'm just really excited to be conversing with people who are knowledgable about cues.

Quesports 06-21-2012 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewnormore (Post 3646962)
I don't leave home without my screech!

Well for all the uninitiated if you want to get caught up on the Newfoundland style of life you need to get a copy of Farley Mowat's book, The Boat Who Wouldn't Float! Prior to reading this one should have some rudimentary knowledge of sailing after that it's all good fun. In fact it is one funny as hell book! I went swordfishing on The Grand Banks back in the 70's and had some of the greatest experiences of my life visiting the maritime provinces of Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. Green rep & smooth sailing my friend, hope you find a great cue!
Dan

resurrecta 06-22-2012 03:45 AM

I own a Boriz cue. I knew it was from Pampanga but I wanted to see how good work was.
Well, the butt looks decent. Inlays and overlays are pretty well taken care of. Not the best, not the worst.
The cue is 60' in total, so that's a bit of a difference.
The only thing bothering on my cue was the grip. It was a snake skin, but it was very unfinished. It felt way too raw to play with. I don't have good things to say about the grip. I can have linnen put on locally here for 60 dollars. So I might have that done eventually.
Other than the grip, the butt is pretty good. Also a decent balance.

The shaft however, indeed... Try to get a decent aftermarket shaft because these Pampanga cues are heavily varnished on the shaft to prevent warping. If you play with a glove, then it's ok. But I can't play with it, I had to have it turned down a bit to get past the varnish layer.

So overall.... If you get one, don't get one with snakeskin and be prepared to use an other aftermarket shaft.
It's still a good cue in the 60-100 dollars range.

andrewnormore 06-22-2012 04:45 AM

Thanks for the feedback resurrecta. Indeed a will be purchasing an aftermarket shaft and I have ordered the model with irish linen wrap. I'm glad to hear from someone who has shot one.

My plan is to purchase the 5/16 x 18 Predator 314 or Katana and if I don't like the balance then I'm going to order another cue from the same area, with the same joint, until I find something I'm comfortable with. My experience has been that if I keep the original shaft unchalked, I shouldn't have a problem getting my $60 back on it if I don't like it and want to sell it.

resurrecta 06-22-2012 07:15 PM

I'm glad to have helped. A tiny suggestion from my part, if you have a 59' or 60' cue, you may want to consider getting the one inch longer 314 because the original shaft is also an inch longer.
I'm not making advertisements, but as an easy reference, I know Seyberts can provide the longer 314 with matched collar work for those cues.
Anyhow, once you get it. Let me know what you think, ;)

whammo57 06-24-2012 06:18 PM

huh?
 
Call me silly but, why not just buy a cue made in North America. There are plenty for a good price.

What the hell is screech.........

Kim

resurrecta 06-25-2012 12:57 PM

That's true but for 60 dollars.... even in US cues your choices are few.


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