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You are not so subtly implying that you know things that I don't - and that these things invalidate natural alignment. Brilliant!! Now all you need to do is go on record saying you will never teach natural alignment. Btw the signoff is to provide a way for stroke instructors to demonstrate...

Steve, I've seen the whole lot of you repeatedly gang up on posters in other stroke threads, oftentimes being VERY disrespectful to them. I also strongly disagree with much of what you have to say and had the not-so-small suspicion that you have no idea what you're talking about...

I have both versions and like them both. I really like the way the wood joint feels, others think it feels a tad dead and prefer the metal joint.

I stated my opinion a week ago. I've encouraged, cajoled, and outraged - only to see the thread quietly go away without a straight answer. Some instructors even gave their input on tangent topics, but provided none on the main discussion point. Simply put, "natural" alignment is in direct...

I've supported my claims with explanations and people should look for credibility in what I wrote, not who I am. Again you are discrediting the information I posted based on your perception of my actions, not the information itself. Actually some of the instructors have been very...

I don't know that you've convincingly established what the knowledge is worth. Your point is unclear, but no one is arguing with you about that. And I've done the same thing and arrived at a different conclusion. Furthermore I've provided the reasoning behind it. You have described the...

Neil, here's something you posted earlier in the thread. Since it forms a line with your grip hand, it typically is. But why would it ideally be over the cue? The aim here isn't to make bad habits work consistently, it's to actually fix them by addressing the root cause. I guess we have...

Neil. Neil.. there's no reasoning is there, Neil? Oh and your argument is invalid because pool is pool and snooker is snooker. It's also invalid because it's invalid and you know it's invalid. Now is a good time to mention that I know things that you can pay me to tell you.

In all fairness the title of the thread is "Stroke Instructor Challenge". No, I have advocated what I call "natural" alignment, given the reasoning behind it, and provided examples that happen to be pros. What you have done is discredit me without supporting any of your claims. Excellent! I...

I have taken this so called "individual basis" issue and explained it in a high-level way that is applicable to anyone, without giving away too much. What's so hard about that? Why?

If you have nothing to hide and feel you have the qualifications to answer the question I posed, then simply answer it. I will not consider someone a professional instructor unless they know what they teach and can explain it.

Yes, but I consider it the lesser of 2 evils. I don't consider the people I think you're referring to as professionals.

I have to say I'm a bit surprised that the stroke instructors will not so much as agree or disagree. How can you in good conscience speak so authoritatively and furthermore charge people for something you can't or won't clearly define and are unwilling or unable to defend?

Very interesting! My 2 cents - forget changing the alignment to achieve a "new" straighter stroke. The tendency is to cram your old stroke into your new alignment. If you don't understand the different motion of the stroke you're going for, then your body will find a way to stroke the way...

betting less :(

Before going on, would any stroke instructors care to weigh in on what I've stated? Please say whether you: Strongly Agree Agree Don't know Disagree Strongly Disagree And why. If you have a differing opinion, feel free to share it.

Also that - it all kind of lines up with this alignment. I found my alignment by finding the line 1/2 relationship and worked my grip around it and it ended up being pretty natural.

Check out the relationship between the lines in this pic..I had a hard time finding a better one. I'm not sure if you meant his stroking arm is perpendicular to the ground, but that's commonplace with this alignment.

@Siz - I feel the muscle stroke is very effective with this alignment. Though I don't use the pendulum stroke, I'd think it work well for that too. I don't consider elbow dropping to be an issue so long as the bicep is driving the stroke. I agree that dropping the elbow before contact is...

Let's focus on 2 lines and the relationship between them: 1) The line formed by your elbow and shoulder 2) The line formed by your grip hand and elbow Stand up straight with your arms by your side. Contract only the bicep of your shooting arm. Does your arm (line 2) move straight up towards...