us open format not legit for history

1sttbone

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
after some serious thought the new us open format is not legitimate because, mika won two us opens after losing and fighting his way back and winning.. This was an unbelievable accomplishment not included in the discussions. History is only accurate if the format is the same and the evolution of the equipment is another topic. Let go back to the old format and history can be legitimate. Love the us open best tournament in the world.
 

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
Silver Member
honestly ,does this make any difference?

People seem to have a hard time with REALITY!! Seems this guy does not understand Matchroom is going to do what they want and feel is good for their business model.

Trent from Toledo
 

Joe_Jaguar

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
after some serious thought the new us open format is not legitimate because, mika won two us opens after losing and fighting his way back and winning.. This was an unbelievable accomplishment not included in the discussions. History is only accurate if the format is the same and the evolution of the equipment is another topic. Let go back to the old format and history can be legitimate. Love the us open best tournament in the world.

The next time you get a thought, don't.
 

td873

C is for Cookie
Silver Member
after some serious thought the new us open format is not legitimate because, mika won two us opens after losing and fighting his way back and winning.. This was an unbelievable accomplishment not included in the discussions. History is only accurate if the format is the same and the evolution of the equipment is another topic. Let go back to the old format and history can be legitimate. Love the us open best tournament in the world.
yeah. And superbowls haven't been legit since instant replay. And Stanley cup winners are false since they redid the rules. And college football champions are all wrong now. And chess world champions are not valid either. And on and on and on.

Times change. We all gotta keep up.

-td <-personally, I think this year was the best 9-ball format ever
 

pt109

WO double hemlock
Silver Member
after some serious thought the new us open format is not legitimate because, mika won two us opens after losing and fighting his way back and winning.. This was an unbelievable accomplishment not included in the discussions. History is only accurate if the format is the same and the evolution of the equipment is another topic. Let go back to the old format and history can be legitimate. Love the us open best tournament in the world.

I don’t agree with your reasoning.....but if it makes you feel any better...
...both guys in the finals had lost a match early.

Golf...do you think they play the Opens on the same courses as the past?
...or the same number of rounds?
 

couldnthinkof01

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Everyone got paid.
It was shown to a worldwide audience.
No dogs and singing.
No tds running a book on the side.
Etcetera.......

Im going to go out on a limb and say
it was a true pro event run by professionals.

Regardless of the format this may just be
the best one yet.
 

garczar

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Guess we better erase all World Series wins by Amer.League teams 'cause they don't play "real" baseball by using the DH. C'mon man, really????? The World 3-Cushion Champ. has changed format numerous times as has the WorldSnooker Champ. Anyone cryin' foul about this? UH, no.
 

Scott Lee

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
after some serious thought the new us open format is not legitimate because, mika won two us opens after losing and fighting his way back and winning.. This was an unbelievable accomplishment not included in the discussions. History is only accurate if the format is the same and the evolution of the equipment is another topic. Let go back to the old format and history can be legitimate. Love the us open best tournament in the world.

You should change your name to clueless.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 

sjm

Older and Wiser
Silver Member
Yes, it's different. Best to embrace the change. Matchroom has shown the way.

Bob Dylan was right when he observed that "the times they are a changin," and it's your every right to prefer the past, but in pool and in life, time marches on and things change.
 

Nostroke

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The Masters changes the course every year and makes big changes once a decade or so.Times change-It is still The Masters.
 

skip100

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I guess all those Super Bowls are illegitimate because there was no double elimination.

Oh yeah, and Wimbledon, and Olympic wrestling, and the baseball playoffs, and...
 

sjm

Older and Wiser
Silver Member
Few, if any, of us agree with the conclusion drawn in the opening post in the thread, but I, for one, appreciate the sentiment in it.

This isn't the US Open as we knew it, but from a historical perspective, what difference would it make if Matchroom called their new event in Vegas "The American 9-ball Championships?" Would we somehow be robbed of the memories of US Opens past? No, not really. Those memories are for keeps, part of pool's lore.

Matchroom, in obtaining the rights to the US Open 9-ball name and bringing this event to Vegas, where far greater fanfare is available than in the past, has grabbed the baton from the Behrmans and it is Matchroom's turn to run with it. They are doing it without abruptness or lack of respect for the event's history. The US Open trophy is now known as the Barry Behrman trophy, and Barry's kids, Brady and Shannon, were center stage and were a shining presence at this year's event, reminding us all of the tournament's roots.

Matchroom is not discarding the history of the US Open, but instead embracing it and building upon it, but it's their event now and, as the most skillful event producers in our sport, they'll add their special touches to the event.

... but there's nothing wrong with feeling regret with respect to the transition. The original poster's sentiments are, in fact, valid, at least to a point.
 

Bob Jewett

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after some serious thought the new us open format is not legitimate because, mika won two us opens after losing and fighting his way back and winning.. This was an unbelievable accomplishment not included in the discussions. History is only accurate if the format is the same and the evolution of the equipment is another topic. Let go back to the old format and history can be legitimate. Love the us open best tournament in the world.
Well, no. Double elimination is death to excitement in televised events. It is an evil invention of sadists and thugs used on sheep and idiots. The fool who first used double elimination for pool should be drawn and quartered and that would still be too mild a punishment for him. Fortunately for him, he is dead.

I guess legitimate is when you put a friend into the tournament after the draw has already taken place. Ask Jay Helfert about that one. Or maybe it's when you pay most or maybe even all of the players eventually.

I think we have moved forward. You seem to have a rose-colored rear-view mirror.
 

book collector

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Yes, it's different. Best to embrace the change. Matchroom has shown the way.

Bob Dylan was right when he observed that "the times they are a changin," and it's your every right to prefer the past, but in pool and in life, time marches on and things change.

Some will dance joyfully to the music, while others are dragged along, head over heels.
 
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