https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6cbmMaENE I found it pretty informative.
FYI, I posted it in the "SVB cheating?" thread here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6cbmMaENE I found it pretty informative.
I know there have been numerous examples in the past of pros pattern racking and manipulating gaps to cheat; but as my video shows, cheating is not required to achieve the action Shane and Dennis were getting. Now, things can vary some with conditions. And if the wing ball was going high with a tight rack, then gaps (in the near "L" or on the back ball) can be helpful (but illegal). But I think my fairly new 860 Simonis and Aramith balls are fairly representative of typical tournament conditions.Great vid Dr. Dave. I'm a big fan of Shane, and am glad to hear that accusations of him cheating are not justified.
That's not true. On VENT-I, Bob and I show numerous examples where gaps in different places can allow a player to cheat in different situations. I am currently working on a feature article with Mike Panozzo for Billiards Digest that will illustrate and describe many of these cheats. I'll post a link when the article comes out.Dr. Dave finds that it's basically never helpful to have a gap, if I'm understanding the video.
No. See the reply I just posted.I'm not exactly following. Are you saying gaps are myths and that having gaps didn't contribute any advantage to the breaker?
You are correct that people (including me) need to be careful generalizing results. Things do vary some with conditions. The purpose for the video was to show that under typical conditions (fairly new Simonis 860 with fairly new Aramith balls), it is possible and very effective to break like Shane and Dennis did at the DCC, and you don't need to cheat the rack to get their results with a tight rack.I'm also not following the logistics behind generalizing the observations from one trained table to what was being accused for at the DCC.
Actually, both ends of my table are trained because I started out breaking from the other side when I first got the table. Also, I don't have room on the other side of the table to set up the tripod, and I wanted the camera on the rack end for the best views of ball directions. Also, I like using the tissue so people can clearly see where the gap(s) are.Only question, why didn't you rack the balls at the other,untrained end, to show gaps?:smile:
No kiddin'. I was thinking same thing.So Dave, did it ever get boring making the wing ball over and over again?
And that's just one symptom of why the break at nine ball is a problem.No kiddin'. I was thinking same thing.
Does 10-ball have this issue? If not, is there any reason to believe it may become one in the future?And that's just one symptom of why the break at nine ball is a problem.
This is like that golf joke about whether it becomes boring hitting the fairway over and over again.No kiddin'. I was thinking same thing.
No. I loved it every time, especially when it hit the heart of the pocket and I could hear the ball slam off the rear leather wall of the pocket and back to the slate lip (almost being rejected from the pocket, which happens sometimes on pockets like the ones I have with a perfect hit at fast speed).So Dave, did it ever get boring making the wing ball over and over again?