American 14.1 Straight Pool 2018

Bob Jewett

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This just came out. Carom Cafe in Queens is a great location.

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This just came out. Carom Cafe in Queens is a great location.

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Bob, for clarification, can I assume this the same tournament that has been held in Midlothian, VA for the past number of years, and they are changing venues, or is this a separate straight pool tournament by the same name? As the name and logo are the same, I assume this is the same tournament in a new venue? - Thanks
 
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Bob Jewett

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Bob, for clarification, can I assume this the same tournament that has been held in Midlothian, VA for the past number of years, and they are changing venues, or is this a separate straight pool tournament by the same name? As the name and logo are the same, I assume this is the same tournament in a new venue? - Thanks
Yup. Same promoter -- Peter Burrows. The format looks like the same, round robins followed by single elim.
 

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I shared this all over Facebook and it seems the common question is that if there are qualifiers ?

May be something to consider to gain more growth in this already great event

Steve
 

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Have never been qualifiers in the past. On the contrary you had to get in early to make sure you got a spot. Peter Burrows is a tireless promoter and talks directly to top players to get them to attend his events.
Hopefully the change in venue doesn't affect anything. Probably won't because I'm sure all the top players will be attending Pats 9ball tournament.
I'm planning to talk to Megan soon and get more info which I'll pass on.
 

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There was a 14.1 Tournament at Steinway Billiards, in October, is that one being held or is this replacing it ?
I've seen that one for the last 2 years.
 

Bob Jewett

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There was a 14.1 Tournament at Steinway Billiards, in October, is that one being held or is this replacing it ?
I've seen that one for the last 2 years.
I think that you saw Charlie William's event in early October last year. His event is moving up the Hudson and to the middle of August for this year.

The American 14.1 Championship is promoted by Peter Burrows and has been in Midlothian (near Richmond) for about 4 years. Before that I think it was the Maryland State 14.1 Championship.

This last year Peter had a better turnout and a larger prize fund that Charlie's event and I think it could fairly be considered the de facto world championship although it did not have a WPA scanction.
 

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I shared this all over Facebook and it seems the common question is that if there are qualifiers ?

May be something to consider to gain more growth in this already great event

Steve
I think it would be great if there were qualifiers. A 12-player qualifier field with a $50 entry could give the winner a little travel money along with his entry. A larger field could qualify two or have some local cash prizes.
 

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Oddball question, but what would be the negative to having these events just be an open? Besides the obvious players, why not have it be an open to encourage other players to play? Or is the entry fee too large and it's why we have qualifiers?
 

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Oddball question, but what would be the negative to having these events just be an open? Besides the obvious players, why not have it be an open to encourage other players to play? Or is the entry fee too large and it's why we have qualifiers?
At the immediately previous location (Diamond Billiards in Midlothian, VA) the number of tables available for the group phase was an issue for a larger field. I think Peter Burrows may be looking at expanding the field slightly but that dilutes the quality of competition unless it's filled with additional top players. The field last year was fearsome.

I think any player who wants to play who has reasonable credentials can get in. Maybe I can talk Peter into having a qualifier or two the day before the main tournament starts.

In general for a "properly" run tournament you want to know who's going to play a month ahead of time so you can get their pictures and bios into the program, and plan a schedule for the exact number of players. Each year there seems to be a few players who drop out at the last moment.
 
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At the immediately previous location (Diamond Billiards in Midlothian, VA) the number of tables available for the group phase was an issue for a larger field. I think Peter Burrows may be looking at expanding the field slightly but that dilutes the quality of competition unless it's filled with additional top players. The field last year was fearsome.

I think any player who wants to play who has reasonable credentials can get in. Maybe I can talk Peter into having a qualifier or two the day before the main tournament starts.

In general for a "properly" run tournament you want to know who's going to play a month ahead of time so you can get their pictures and bios into the program, and plan a schedule for the exact number of players. Each year there seems to be a few players who drop out at the last moment.

Two days after the conclusion of the American 14.1 at the Carom Cafe, the inaugural US International 9-Ball Open will kick off in Norfolk, from October 21-27. Many of the top pros will travel down from NYC to Norfolk for this $50,000 added event, produced by Pat Fleming. Then, from November 7 to Nov.11, The Tornado Open will be start at the Hard Rock Casino in Atlantic City...another big pro event to add to the busy Fall schedule on the East Coast.
 

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I reached out to Peter, I’m third on the waiting list. I hope I can get that week off from work if s spit opens up for me. If not I have someone lined up already to take my spot
 

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Is there a list of entrants

This is a slightly old list. I hear there have been some changes and there are currently 48 players.

  1. Alcaide David Salamanca Spain
  2. Babica Radoslaw Rokietnica Poland
  3. Badstuebner Mike Bethpage NY
  4. Chen Ryes Nyack NY
  5. Chin Holden Bayside NY
  6. Chinahov Ruslan Moscow Russia
  7. Davis Mike Raleigh NC
  8. Dudanets Maksim Moscow 140023 Russia
  9. Eberle Max Las Vegas NV
  10. Eckert Ralph G. Berlin Germany
  11. Eisenberg, MD Elliot San Francisco CA
  12. Fortunski Mieszko Lublin Poland
  13. Gleich Tom Durham NC
  14. Gorst Fedor Moscow Russia
  15. He Mario Feldkirch Austria
  16. Heller, James Short Hills NJ
  17. Hohmann Thorsten Jacksonville FL
  18. Hunter Bob Prospect Heights IL
  19. Immonen Mika New York NY
  20. Judge Ben Padbury W. Australia
  21. Juszczyszyn Konrad Lublin Poland
  22. Kaci Eklent Tirana Albania
  23. Kiamco Warren Quezon City Philippines
  24. Korsiak Joey Ronkonkoma NY
  25. Kudlik Marek Kutno Poland
  26. Lombardo Hunter Royal Palm Beach FL
  27. Madenjian Bob Brooklyn CT
  28. Makkonen Petri Hyvinkaa Finland
  29. Matikainen Casper Helsinki Finland
  30. Matthieu Steve Salem NH
  31. Morgan Sean Astoria NY
  32. Orcollo Dennis Quezon City Philippines
  33. Pagulayan Alex Cerritos CA
  34. Pole Rob Brooklyn NY
  35. Polo Don Ocean View NJ
  36. Reyes Efren Manilla Philippines
  37. Robles Tony Wantagh NY
  38. Sanchez-Ruiz Francisco Murcia Spain
  39. Schmidt John Hesperia CA
  40. Siekkinen Jani Helsinki Finland
  41. Sim Del Jersey City NJ
  42. Smith Jonathan New York NY
  43. Souquet Ralf Geisenfeld Germany
  44. Van Corteza Lee Davao City Philippines
  45. Walsh John Bohemia NY
  46. Walter Tom Great Neck NY
  47. Wilkie Shaun Havre de Grace MD
  48. Yednak Michael Brooklyn NY
  49. Zvi Zion Flushing NY
 

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This is a slightly old list. I hear there have been some changes and there are currently 48 players.

  1. Alcaide David Salamanca Spain
  2. Babica Radoslaw Rokietnica Poland
  3. Badstuebner Mike Bethpage NY
  4. Chen Ryes Nyack NY
  5. Chin Holden Bayside NY
  6. Chinahov Ruslan Moscow Russia
  7. Davis Mike Raleigh NC
  8. Dudanets Maksim Moscow 140023 Russia
  9. Eberle Max Las Vegas NV
  10. Eckert Ralph G. Berlin Germany
  11. Eisenberg, MD Elliot San Francisco CA
  12. Fortunski Mieszko Lublin Poland
  13. Gleich Tom Durham NC
  14. Gorst Fedor Moscow Russia
  15. He Mario Feldkirch Austria
  16. Heller, James Short Hills NJ
  17. Hohmann Thorsten Jacksonville FL
  18. Hunter Bob Prospect Heights IL
  19. Immonen Mika New York NY
  20. Judge Ben Padbury W. Australia
  21. Juszczyszyn Konrad Lublin Poland
  22. Kaci Eklent Tirana Albania
  23. Kiamco Warren Quezon City Philippines
  24. Korsiak Joey Ronkonkoma NY
  25. Kudlik Marek Kutno Poland
  26. Lombardo Hunter Royal Palm Beach FL
  27. Madenjian Bob Brooklyn CT
  28. Makkonen Petri Hyvinkaa Finland
  29. Matikainen Casper Helsinki Finland
  30. Matthieu Steve Salem NH
  31. Morgan Sean Astoria NY
  32. Orcollo Dennis Quezon City Philippines
  33. Pagulayan Alex Cerritos CA
  34. Pole Rob Brooklyn NY
  35. Polo Don Ocean View NJ
  36. Reyes Efren Manilla Philippines
  37. Robles Tony Wantagh NY
  38. Sanchez-Ruiz Francisco Murcia Spain
  39. Schmidt John Hesperia CA
  40. Siekkinen Jani Helsinki Finland
  41. Sim Del Jersey City NJ
  42. Smith Jonathan New York NY
  43. Souquet Ralf Geisenfeld Germany
  44. Van Corteza Lee Davao City Philippines
  45. Walsh John Bohemia NY
  46. Walter Tom Great Neck NY
  47. Wilkie Shaun Havre de Grace MD
  48. Yednak Michael Brooklyn NY
  49. Zvi Zion Flushing NY

sjm — Following up on the recent discussions regarding strength of field in this event as compared to the Charlie Williams event, and, more importantly, as compared to the US Open and other top straight pool tournaments “back in the day,” which players in this field do you consider to currently be bona fide “great” (or “world class” or whatever term you’d like to pick and perhaps attempt to define) straight pool players, as opposed to being “past their prime” (if they used to be “great” in straight pool ), never “great” at straight pool, or never “great” at any game of pocket billiards? Separately, who, if anyone, from among those missing from this field, would you consider to currently be a “great” straight pool player (e.g., perhaps Feijen, Appleton)?

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Below are the players in the top 100 on FargoRate. Of course that's not 14.1 but there aren't that many straight pool specialists. Notable entries who are not in the FR100 include John Schmidt and Konrad Juszczyszyn.

It would have been nice to see these FR100 players entered, all of whom have played in US 14.1 tournaments: Filler, Shaw, Van Boening, Biado, Feijen, Ouschan, Appleton, Lo Li Wen, Melling, Deuel, Strickland, Archer, Ortmann.

It would also be nice to see more Chinese players entered. They have been playing top 14.1 at least since 2000.

My pick is Orcullo. He is capable of averaging 50 per scoring inning.

(FargoRate is the last number.)
  1. Alcaide David Salamanca Spain 33
  2. Babica Radoslaw Rokietnica Poland 91
  3. Chinahov Ruslan Moscow Russia 44
  4. Fortunski Mieszko Lublin Poland 81
  5. Gorst Fedor Moscow Russia 21
  6. He Mario Feldkirch Austria 41
  7. Hohmann Thorsten Jacksonville FL 53
  8. Immonen Mika New York NY 39
  9. Kaci Eklent Tirana Albania 10
  10. Kiamco Warren Quezon City Philippines 23
  11. Kudlik Marek Kutno Poland 87
  12. Makkonen Petri Hyvinkaa Finland 62
  13. Orcollo Dennis Quezon City Philippines 5
  14. Pagulayan Alex Cerritos CA 14
  15. Reyes Efren Manilla Philippines 46
  16. Sanchez-Ruiz Francisco Murcia Spain 17
  17. Souquet Ralf Geisenfeld Germany 32
  18. Van Corteza Lee Davao City Philippines 15
 
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sjm — Following up on the recent discussions regarding strength of field in this event as compared to the Charlie Williams event, and, more importantly, as compared to the US Open and other top straight pool tournaments “back in the day,” which players in this field do you consider to currently be bona fide “great” (or “world class” or whatever term you’d like to pick and perhaps attempt to define) straight pool players, as opposed to being “past their prime” (if they used to be “great” in straight pool ), never “great” at straight pool, or never “great” at any game of pocket billiards? Separately, who, if anyone, from among those missing from this field, would you consider to currently be a “great” straight pool player (e.g., perhaps Feijen, Appleton)?

Seth

I'm restricting this to those that have shown strong form in 14.1 at some point recently, not just talented guys who shoot straight and, therefore, can't be discounted.

Using this principle, I'd call eleven of these to be world class "great" at present, namely Ruslan Chinakhov, Mike Davis, Max Eberle, Thorsten Hohmann, Mika Immonen, Dennis Orcollo, Alex Pagulayan, Tony Robles, John Schmidt, Ralf Souquet, and Lee Van Corteza.

Off the top of my head, the most noteworthy world class "great" straight pool players at present who are missing: Darren Appleton, Nick Vandenberg, Niels Feijen, Oliver Ortmann, Jayson Shaw, Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Stefan Cohen, Shane Van Boening, Corey Deuel, Danny Harriman, Dennis Hatch and Francisco Bustamante.
 
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I'm restricting this to those that have shown strong form in 14.1 at some point recently, not just talented guys who shoot straight and, therefore, can't be discounted.

Using this principle, I'd call eleven of these to be world class "great" at present, namely Ruslan Chinakhov, Mike Davis, Max Eberle, Thorsten Hohmann, Mika Immonen, Dennis Orcollo, Alex Pagulayan, Tony Robles, John Schmidt, Ralf Souquet, and Lee Van Corteza.

Off the top of my head, the most noteworthy world class "great" straight pool players at present who are missing: Darren Appleton, Nick Vandenberg, Niels Feijen, Oliver Ortmann, Jayson Shaw, Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Stefan Cohen, Shane Van Boening, Corey Deuel, Danny Harriman, Dennis Hatch and Francisco Bustamante.

Okay ... so ... how would the combined list of all of the players you’ve noted above, including both those in the field and those not (total of 24), stack up against the top 24 in the actual fields in the US Opens held during the golden years of straight pool?

Also, Shaw and SVB are “great” straight pool players? Neither one has played it much at all, has he? Perhaps the same can be said about Earl?
 
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