Practice game: FARGO
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I like Fargo because it punishes you for overestimating your ability. For those who haven't seen the video, you have to decide when in the rack to change from shooting any ball to shooting in rotation, getting a bonus point for each ball shot in rotation.mikepage said:
Guess i will strart carrying a block of wood in my case....... LOL
Sounds like a good practice game. i'll have to give it a try !
I Ussually just play the ghost in 9 ball, but i have little twist on the game, if i take ball in hand and run out i get half a game, if i elect to shoot from where the cue stops on the break i get a full game. AND THE GHOST ALWAYS GETS 1 IF I MISS yeah and as you guessed it, the ghost wins most of time!
Steve
Sounds like a good practice game. i'll have to give it a try !
I Ussually just play the ghost in 9 ball, but i have little twist on the game, if i take ball in hand and run out i get half a game, if i elect to shoot from where the cue stops on the break i get a full game. AND THE GHOST ALWAYS GETS 1 IF I MISS yeah and as you guessed it, the ghost wins most of time!
Steve
mikepage said:
This sounds like a very good practice game. I like the progressive scoring system for improvement. Thanks for sharing.
Similar to Q Skills
This is very similar to the Q Skills Challenge, which I have been doing for a while now in my practice. There are two obvious differences.First, with Q Skills you do not take ball in hand after break, without taking a penalty. Second, with the Q Skills, you always play the first 10 balls of the rack in any order and the last five always in rotation. I think I will have to try this version, since I like the extra challenge of deciding when in the rack you switch to rotation.
Here is a link describing the Q Skills Practice ...
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=45710
Mark
This is very similar to the Q Skills Challenge, which I have been doing for a while now in my practice. There are two obvious differences.First, with Q Skills you do not take ball in hand after break, without taking a penalty. Second, with the Q Skills, you always play the first 10 balls of the rack in any order and the last five always in rotation. I think I will have to try this version, since I like the extra challenge of deciding when in the rack you switch to rotation.
Here is a link describing the Q Skills Practice ...
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=45710
Mark
Thanks Mike, this looks like a lot of fun. I also practice with Q-skills quite frequently, but I'll give this a shot next time I play. Do you have any data on how FARGO scores compare to Q-skills scores? I'd imagine people would score a bit higher on FARGO, but then again, as Bob said, they may overestimate their ability and shoot themselves in the foot.
BTW, did you used to play at the NDSU union 6 or 7 years ago. You look familiar, and I remember playing there some when I was in school and running into some people there on the weekends that ate my lunch Regardless, Sioux Suck!!!
BTW, did you used to play at the NDSU union 6 or 7 years ago. You look familiar, and I remember playing there some when I was in school and running into some people there on the weekends that ate my lunch
Regardless, Sioux Suck!!!
Awesome. Thx.
Dustin_J said:
I should know the comparison because we used to do on-line tournaments first with Q-skill and then later with FARGO. The "self-awareness" component of FARGO makes a big difference. There is a penalty for either over or underestimating your own game. Q-skill is essentially a measure of pure offensive ability. FARGO mixes in some major components of what in 8-ball and 9-ball would translate to strategy/defensive considerations.
BTW, did you used to play at the NDSU union 6 or 7 years ago. You look familiar, and I remember playing there some when I was in school and running into some people there on the weekends that ate my lunch
That would be me
(me playing occasionally at the union--not me eating your lunch).
lol. We'll see if THAT gets a response...
mikepage said:
Right on about the Sioux. Seeing that they are finally moving up to D-1, maybe they will want to match up with the Bison and get stomped again.
Do you still go down to the Union and play Dan Gu or Bruce? Do those guys still show up? I ran into Bruce when I went down to Iowa for a Big Dogs tournament. Him and Dave Mullen went down there.
I saw the video yesterday, and it actually is a very cool practice game. I tried out a few racks yesterday night (scoring a 21 the first try ).
It is very similar to Q-skill (at least the version played in the BDMMT), but Fargo is much less frustrating for the mediocre player such as myself. I like the fact that in Fargo you can decide exactly when to switch from random to rotation. Also, ball in hand after the break is huge!
I'll definitely be playing this practice game more regularly, to find out if I really am the C player I think I am.
).It is very similar to Q-skill (at least the version played in the BDMMT), but Fargo is much less frustrating for the mediocre player such as myself. I like the fact that in Fargo you can decide exactly when to switch from random to rotation. Also, ball in hand after the break is huge!
I'll definitely be playing this practice game more regularly, to find out if I really am the C player I think I am.
Score sheet
FARGO is a great concentration game!
Here is a link to a Fargo score sheet w/ rules included...
http://pool.fojavi.com/fargo_sheet.pdf
There are several other score sheets and stuff at my web site pool.fojavi.com
Vinnie
FARGO is a great concentration game!
Here is a link to a Fargo score sheet w/ rules included...
http://pool.fojavi.com/fargo_sheet.pdf
There are several other score sheets and stuff at my web site pool.fojavi.com
Vinnie
mikepage said:
Thanks Mike! I am a big fan of single player games for exactly the reasons you cited...including the ability to simulate real pressure....and I will certainly try Fargo.
The one issue I have with most such games is that they are entirely offensive and safety skills, which are critical to nearly all pool games, are absent and therefore, not measured in the "rating" scores.
I don't mean to hijack this thread but I am just curious if you read my posts re: "Ghost Plus" which introduces a safety option into the standard Ghost Ball game.
Briefly, you play the Ghost but have one opportunity per rack to play a CALLED safety.
If you leave the Ghost hooked requiring a 1 rail kick, you get ball in hand and can continue the run.
In the Advanced version, you need to leave a jump shot or at least 2 rail kick and if not, you lose the rack.
In either version, a scratch on the break is loss of rack which adds at least some ranking weight to breaking skills.
Regards,
Jim
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Only ERO's said:
I haven't played there in six months. But funny you should mention Bruce and Dave. I dropped a couple Bills (one each) to those two scoundrels Tuesday night. It was me against them in straight pool. They played scotch doubles. I just couldn't get it together.
mikepage said:
I was quite surprised how Bruce's game had come along. Dave C. gambled with him a little in Iowa and though he had the nuts. But Bruce took a few sets. I am not sure how they ended up but it surprised Dave.
Still have that 72 or 73 for a high run? I need to start keeping track of my straight pool innings to see what I can put together.
Only ERO's said:
I'm not surprised. He definitely gets the most-improved award for around here.
He's been playing a lot of the tight diamond at DMs house. The other night he got up 8 or 10 games on Rory getting the 7 or the 7 out or something like that.
He had a good night, and Rory played poorly, but STILL...
I gave him 2 to 7 playing 8-ball at Rugby this year, and I wasn't liking it at all.
Oh you're so kind ;-). It's 71 And even that has a rack or so borrowed from beyond the rainbow. I think my next best is 56 :-(