PVC pipe stuffed with fiberglass....$1300 please. .Johnnyt
I think a lot of people have little experience with carbon fiber products...Take fishing rods, for instance. You can slam a carbon fiber fishing rod into a rock, and it will seem perfectly fine. Then suddenly, while you are fighting a fish, it snaps on the exact spot where you hit it previously. Sure, carbon fiber is a strong material, but it's far from indistructible. Especially not as a pool cue, where it may (of may not, depending on the owners temperament) suffer sudden shocks in a direction it was not designed to be resistant to.
An owner slamming the cue against the table is completely different from the same person hitting a ball in the proper way with the stick. Wood may get dented and slightly bent, but it takes A LOT of punishment to break a wooden pool shaft. You almost have to try to do it. Carbon fiber may only take one good hit to break right then and there, or at a later time when you had long forgotten about the crucial impact.
There are many advantages to synthetic pool shafts, but there are even more drawbacks. I'm sticking to my regular wood shafts, for now.
Exactly. Carbon-fiber is directional. Hitting the shaft on the side will break it every time. Golf shafts are same way: VERY strong in flexing/unflexing but very easy to break if hit from the side.Actually the Revo shaft is indestructable under normal use. It will not dent nor warp. Slamming it onto anything is abuse not intended as normal use, and voids the warranty, I would expect.
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FWIW, I HOPE EVERY idiot who slams his cue on something breaks it. Whether they be REVO, WalMartO, Balabushka, Szamboti, or whatever.
Cues are made to play pool with...not throw and slam around.
If you miss a ball or make a mistake and slam your cue, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
Exactly. Carbon-fiber is directional. Hitting the shaft on the side will break it every time. Golf shafts are same way: VERY strong in flexing/unflexing but very easy to break if hit from the side.
I'm not buying the foam core does anything more the change the weight and the soundIt's very possible the CF was pultruded, not table-rolled as most golf shafts, or interweaved, like some others. Regardless, golf shafts ha1ve CF sheets with different layers, each layer going in a different direction. Pool shafts don't need to withstand 127mph clubhead speed (Bubby Watson) however. The Mezz masse' cue looks to be table-rolled, but looks like Kevlar.
The foam core is what gives the shaft its strength, because it prevents the CF outer layer from deforming when bent (i.e. hoop strength.) There is no foam in a golf shaft because that would affect feel in a negative way (they use titanium nickel wire, Kevlar, and other composites to minimize deformation.)
I'm not buying the foam core does anything more the change the weight and the sound
Regardless I'm labeling it as junk I wouldn't give 5 dollars for one after seeing this as thin as those walls are if hit fell and hit the edge of a table it would be subject to break at any time
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CF is so strong, especially in compression, that if they made the walls thicker it would feel like you were stroking a 2 x 4 (and start to weigh as much). If you bent such CF tube with no foam core, it would ovalize as it bent, The foam core prevents that ovalizing, which gives it greater stiffness-to-weight ratio.
If you look at the Mezz masse' shaft, you can see the woven Kevlar fibers. I'd all but guarantee it would take more than a whack at a corner to break that.
I'm not defending the Revo shaft, nor would I buy one. But some of the ignorant comments about CF in general is just mind-boggling.
More surprising to myself than the break was how thin the side wall is in the photo.
I understand about the weight with a thicker sidewall, but structurally, could you have a thicker sidewall near the joint then thin out towards the tip?
One question is was the hit against the table at the point of the break, or further up towards the tip, causing a flex and snapping further down?