More Space at DCC?

Saturated Fats

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Just returned from DCC. Seems like a whole lot of renovations going on at the hotel/casino. Anyone know if any of this will result in more table space for DCC? They sure could use it.
 

wrickyb

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They are moving the Casino to land. New laws in place that it doesn't have to be on the water. So the expansion is to replace the floating Casino. I was told there would be a food court added.
 

oldzilla

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Just returned from DCC. Seems like a whole lot of renovations going on at the hotel/casino. Anyone know if any of this will result in more table space for DCC? They sure could use it.

It doesn't matter how many tables you have.

It's more about waiting for the draw !!!

Gonna need more days if any other events are added.
 

Bob Jewett

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Just returned from DCC. Seems like a whole lot of renovations going on at the hotel/casino. Anyone know if any of this will result in more table space for DCC? They sure could use it.
I was told that they do not plan any more convention/meeting space. The current event fills up the hotel, so they cannot sell any more room nights unless they build a bigger hotel. Considering the location and the options in Louisville, I suspect that DCC is the largest event at the Horseshoe. There's no point in building more room that will be used for just one week per year.

There will be four more tables available next year.:(
 

Bob Jewett

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It doesn't matter how many tables you have.

It's more about waiting for the draw !!!

Gonna need more days if any other events are added.

Or they could fix the tournament format (still with buy-backs) so that they keep all of the tables busy. If you ever see empty tables and players waiting for a table, either the TD or the format is broken.
 

Yoda4962

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why will 4 more tables be available ? Is the straight pool challenge not going to happen ?
If so,, what can we do to make it happen ?


yoda
 

jay helfert

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One of these years they will wise up and institute the "Grady" rule for the One Pocket and watch what a huge difference that will make! They almost did it this year but got talked out of it by a few very vocal opponents. Too bad, once more one big cluster f'ck in the scheduling of matches. :cool:
 

Bob Jewett

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why will 4 more tables be available ? Is the straight pool challenge not going to happen ?
If so,, what can we do to make it happen ? ...
Yes, no more 14.1 Challenge at DCC.

Various things happened so that the organizers no longer wanted to put in the time and money.

You can make it happen by raising $20k for the added money, showing up and putting in the required 200+ hours of work. Assuming that the DCC would accept new management for the event.
 

CoreyD

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Is there a reason they couldn't just remove the bracket portion of the 14.1 challenge? Pay out the top 3 or 4 runs and don't worry about a bracket that will never get finished.

A 14.1 bracket doesn't really make sense to me anyways as you're not really playing against the player, you're playing against the table.
 

thewhiffer

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One of these years they will wise up and institute the "Grady" rule for the One Pocket and watch what a huge difference that will make! They almost did it this year but got talked out of it by a few very vocal opponents. Too bad, once more one big cluster f'ck in the scheduling of matches. :cool:

What is the Grady rule?
 

Yoda4962

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DCC 14.1 challenge ideas

Yes, no more 14.1 Challenge at DCC.

Various things happened so that the organizers no longer wanted to put in the time and money.

You can make it happen by raising $20k for the added money, showing up and putting in the required 200+ hours of work. Assuming that the DCC would accept new management for the event.

Bob, I have a few ideas.
1. no match tournament for the final 8, just the daily awards.
2. no score keepers required, each player must score their own runs.
(like golf honor system)
3. only need someone to manage the table assignments.
4. players must volunteer an hour or two of their time to help run it.
5. no need for 20 grand added. (most players would play for a 5 dollar bill).

Would you be wiling to help me, or someone keep this running ?

Let me hear your thoughts,
thanks.
 

sjm

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One of these years they will wise up and institute the "Grady" rule for the One Pocket and watch what a huge difference that will make! They almost did it this year but got talked out of it by a few very vocal opponents. Too bad, once more one big cluster f'ck in the scheduling of matches. :cool:

Yes, but it's also true that the nine ball event used to have races to seven, which made far more sense for an event with 400 players. The exact same players were succeeding back then, too. The foolish increase to race to nine a few years ago is also one of the reasons they always fall behind now.
 

Bob Jewett

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... Would you be wiling to help me, or someone keep this running ? ...
I feel I have spent enough winter vacations in southern Indiana, so you are on your own.

I think the added money is important and the players will not be willing to put in volunteer time, but I could be wrong.
 

lfigueroa

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Yes, no more 14.1 Challenge at DCC.

Various things happened so that the organizers no longer wanted to put in the time and money.

You can make it happen by raising $20k for the added money, showing up and putting in the required 200+ hours of work. Assuming that the DCC would accept new management for the event.


I knew this was coming.

But still it gives me great sadness because watching the 14.1 Challenge was something I always enjoyed at the DCC. But I do not fault the selfless volunteers one itsy bitsy tiny bit. It has been a thankless job and there are many factors that have inevitably led to this.

It is a shame but is what it is.

Lou Figueroa
 

sjm

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Bob, I have a few ideas.
1. no match tournament for the final 8, just the daily awards.
2. no score keepers required, each player must score their own runs.
(like golf honor system)
3. only need someone to manage the table assignments.
4. players must volunteer an hour or two of their time to help run it.
5. no need for 20 grand added. (most players would play for a 5 dollar bill).

Would you be wiling to help me, or someone keep this running ?

Let me hear your thoughts,
thanks.

I'd lose the daily prizes and make the prizes for the weekly high runs only, perhaps a first prize, a second prize and a third prize. You'd need just one table and would need to limit the number of tries allowed per player,. Without the added money, though, the event has no future. You're mistaken if you think the players will participate unless plenty of money is available for the winner, and there is zero chance they'd contribute their time to running it.

This event looks dead to me, but I'd sure like to be wrong.
 

StraightPoolIU

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I too am disappointed about the demise of this event. It was by far the most intimate atmosphere of all of the events there and you got to observe the game and the players on a different level. Example from this year: I was up there watching Neils on an attempt. John Schmidt was also sweating it. In between attempts Neils calls John over and they have a lengthy discussion about different break shots, how to avoid scratches, and the different ways to shoot them. It was fascinating and educational. I'll miss stuff like that.

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Baby Huey

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Jay Helfert, you are my buddy for over 50 years, forget that Grady Rule stuff. It completely changes the game such that we don't recognize it anymore. The matches got played, nothing got carried over and with all the participants it actually went quite well. The TD and staff did invoke a rule that after I think 2 1/2 hours of a match they the staff would go to the table and if it wasn't in the last game then the Grady Rule would be used. Too my knowledge this never had to be utilized.
 

lfigueroa

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Jay Helfert, you are my buddy for over 50 years, forget that Grady Rule stuff. It completely changes the game such that we don't recognize it anymore. The matches got played, nothing got carried over and with all the participants it actually went quite well. The TD and staff did invoke a rule that after I think 2 1/2 hours of a match they the staff would go to the table and if it wasn't in the last game then the Grady Rule would be used. Too my knowledge this never had to be utilized.


Agree.

I saw tournament staff visit exactly one table. They had just finished so nothing needed to be done. The Grady Rule at the DCC is a solution in search of a problem.

Lou Figueroa
 
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