Scott Frost vs Ronnie Allen in his prime
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It tells anyone, that Artie was way smarter than a lot of players! You can certainly WIN more money, when you have a lot more room to maneuverer in the game! DUH!
The same reason Artie 95% of the time took 9/8 from Bugs! Plus NOT wanting to give up all the same spots Bugs gave, if they played EVEN ALL the time!
Sounds like plenty of, 'Common Sense' to me for a 'Pool Hustler!"
Haven't you guy's figured out Mr. 3??'s plan yet ?..He loves to make totally irrational, assanine claims !
Then when everybody comes down on him, he'll go into his pout, then come out screaming obscenities at ME !
..That has been his main focus, for 5 yrs. now !..Its good to know, that he will eventually run out of people, who will even bother trying to correct him ? SJD
PS..Its kinda my fault though..He knows he'll always have me, to set him straight ! :grin:
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GoldenFlash
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I saw Squirrel give Ronnie 9-6 in Atlanta back around 1964(?) and little Squirrel steamrollered RA. (I mentioned that to Ronnie at the first "Legends of One Pocket" and he said that Squirrel was the toughest he ever played.)
Looked pretty good to me........(assuming there was no business).
Too bad Beanie isn't still alive to verify this because he was playing one of the locals (Joe Cosgrove) at the very next table.
Flash
Looked pretty good to me........(assuming there was no business).
Too bad Beanie isn't still alive to verify this because he was playing one of the locals (Joe Cosgrove) at the very next table.
Flash
Mr. Flash....Not doubting your word, but RA getting 9/6 from Squirrel sounds very, VERY strange, unless something 'funny' was going on ?..Even if it were, they would not have needed to match up THAT lopsided to create action !..I recall RA challenging ANYONE in the room to play 1P, at all the Jansco tournaments. (from '64 on)..In fact, he offered most of them at least 9/8 !...(Mr.Squirrel was there, for every one of them ???)
SJD
PS..Not saying RA always won..but NOBODY 'steamrollered' him, playing even 1P in those years !
Haven't you guy's figured out Mr. 3??'s plan yet ?..He loves to make totally irrational, assanine claims !
Then when everybody comes down on him, he'll go into his pout, then come out screaming obscenities at ME !
SJD
PS..Its kinda my fault though..He knows he'll always have me, to set him straight ! :grin:
Ok, I see your point. I give up,
One question though SJD, wouldn't you feel like a complete fool if you were to go to a 3c billiard site and argue with Sang Lee, (ya I know he is no longer with us, just sayin)
I've seen Scott play a number of times and Ronnie just a couple and I honestly couldn't say who would prevail. Scott runs big numbers and is an incredible shot maker. Ronnie would look at a trap he was in and shoot a shot that would carom, combo, and tickie ALL the furniture to his side of the table. He could also run balls like water.
As a side note, there are only three guys that, IMO, should be mentioned in this conversation: Efren, Scott, and Ronnie. Those three gentlemen are legends that played everyone everywhere. Until a few years ago, when Freddy started banging the drum, no one outside of the Windy City knew about Artie other than he was super tough on his home track.
Lou Figueroa
As a side note, there are only three guys that, IMO, should be mentioned in this conversation: Efren, Scott, and Ronnie. Those three gentlemen are legends that played everyone everywhere. Until a few years ago, when Freddy started banging the drum, no one outside of the Windy City knew about Artie other than he was super tough on his home track.
Lou Figueroa
GoldenFlash
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As usual, YOU have the reeeeeeeeeal story. Man, what a grouchy troublemaker you are.Mr. Flash....Not doubting your word, but RA getting 9/6 from Squirrel sounds very, VERY strange, unless something 'funny' was going on ?..Even if it were, they would not have needed to match up THAT lopsided to create action !..I recall RA challenging ANYONE in the room to play 1P, at all the Jansco tournaments. (from '64 on)..In fact, he offered most of them at least 9/8 !...(Mr.Squirrel was there, for every one of them ???)
SJD
PS..Not saying RA always won..but NOBODY 'steamrollered' him, playing even 1P in those years !
You were not even there.
You did not see the match.
Weenie Beanie did, Joey Spades did, that guy New York Blackie did, Danny Jones did, and YOU pipe up and say it's BS and maybe some "funny" was going on.
Those backers over there with Allen and Squirrel during that match were not people to fool around with.....I don't see how any business could've made the gate.
Take your "rolleyes" icon and put it back in your empty pockets.
The Squirrel broke him.
Here's another account of his not so good a memory, or something else!
I recall RA challenging ANYONE in the room to play 1P, at all the Jansco tournaments. (from '64 on)..
I was there with Freddy and others from Chicago the last 4 years! I can tell you this, the SJD bird was NOWHERE to be found the last 4 years!
Flash. you have to understand, he has VERY good, 'Selective memory!'
I recall RA challenging ANYONE in the room to play 1P, at all the Jansco tournaments. (from '64 on)..
I was there with Freddy and others from Chicago the last 4 years! I can tell you this, the SJD bird was NOWHERE to be found the last 4 years!
Flash. you have to understand, he has VERY good, 'Selective memory!'
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When the derby city Classic was at the executive west, my buddy asked Ronnie "how would you have matched of with Efren, in your prime". Ronnie said I would need 9-7. I was right there when he said it. There was no reason for Ronnie to not tell us what he really thought.
But...your 'beat' is out gambling, not outplaying, at least not without a handicap at +25%.
Black; the 'Outplaying' ALWAYS comes in at towards the end of a score!
That's 'Hustling 401!'
P.S. Your math is a little off with the 25%, you're forgetting about the worth of the BREAK!
Yes, I most certainly would..Some people just have NO common sense, or shame !
LATE EDIT; Here comes another one now. I knew we could count on his 'TOW' soon ! (Touch of Wisdom)
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Efren had some "tools" he was unfamiliar with. Efren averages 27.......
I agree with Ronnie, he knew Efren had some "tools" he was unfamiliar with. Efren averages 27, playing one cushion billiards......imagine what that enables him to do playing one-pocket.
I agree with Ronnie, he knew Efren had some "tools" he was unfamiliar with. Efren averages 27, playing one cushion billiards......imagine what that enables him to do playing one-pocket.
Theres another wager you would lose, big time !..In fact I played both Cokes and Kelly, the only year I entered the 1P tournament at the Stardust !..And another 'different' year..I played Tacoma Whitey in the back room for several days. Get up some $$$$, and I'll prove it to you ! ...Don't you ever retain ANYTHING you read ?..
I see you lunged at the prospect, of maybe finally having "ONE" new ally ! (G.Flash)...He must be forgetting, he was the one who brought up the possibility of "funny business" in his post # 104
..Like I said..Don't you EVER get tired of being wrong ? (sorry Flash )SJD---WGEOS="Worlds Greatest Exposer of Stupidity"!
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number13cfan
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Theres another wager you would lose, big time !..In fact I played both Cokes and Kelly, the only year I entered the 1P tournament at the Stardust !..And another 'different' year..I played Tacoma Whitey in the back room for several days. Get up some $$$$, and I'll prove it to you ! ...Don't you ever retain ANYTHING you read ?..
I see you lunged at the prospect, of maybe finally having "ONE" new ally ! (G.Flash)...He must be forgetting, he was the one who brought up the possibility of "funny business" in his post #104 !
SJD---WGEOS="Worlds Greatest Exposer of Stupidity"!
ah Hah, I see!
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let me start this discussion before i might get flamed...
i think efren is the greatest pool player ever....
pick your game
him(ronnie) saying he needed 9/7 in his prime you must realize he might have been fishing for
a game
with efren...
just sayin
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Theres another wager you would lose, big time !..In fact I played both Cokes and Kelly, the only year I entered the 1P tournament at the Stardust !..And another 'different' year..I played Tacoma Whitey in the back room for several days. Get up some $$$$, and I'll prove it to you ! ...Don't you ever retain ANYTHING you read ?..
I see you lunged at the prospect, of maybe finally having "ONE" new ally ! (G.Flash)...He must be forgetting, he was the one who brought up the possibility of "funny business" in his post # 104
SJD---WGEOS="Worlds Greatest Exposer of Stupidity"!
I meant at Johnston City, genius! YOU were NOT there the last 4 years, especially when the 'Feds' showed up!
That YOU can empty out on!