Lets get back to the subject, I personally like, "king master lord derekdiscos room of loyal servants" , kinda catchy
AzHousePro said:And I am simply going by what I was told by Greg today. He said you were given a room because of the AzB room. I doubt he has any reason to lie about this.
Just wanted ALL of the facts out there.
I am sure there are other people here who would have ran the raffle if they had known a room for 9 days would be offered to them.
For the record, the room offer came AFTER the raffle was over. It was a surprise and not expected at all.
I do not know why Greg would tell you that, when it simply is not true. Eydie can attest to it. I would rather not ask anyone to get involved in any of this but because you're insistent on trying to making me look like a liar, if Greg or Eydie, the only two people that I ever uttered a word to about this would like to speak up, I would appreciate it. I am not a liar and my integrity is important to me which is why I will continue to push this point.
For the 3rd time, I'll ask why I'm supposed to thank you for the offer that Greg extended to me?
Nope, not a slip at all. Greg asked me who was the point person for the room. After he and I talked and I then talked to Willie, I told Greg it would be Willie. Greg asked if you would be the point person and I specifically said that you would not.
For the true record, you were never in charge of the room. Willie was the original point person on it as far as Greg was concerned and Steve was added after Diana suggested him because of how much of a help he was in 06.
Again, great communicating on your part. I and everyone else was lead to believe otherwise.Williebetmore said:In case of disputes/problems look up one of the 3 organizers (Timberly, Steve Lomako, myself). The ruling of the organizer is FINAL AND BINDING (even if it’s wrong). Steve is the official “Room Goon”, let’s make sure he does NOT have to assert his authority.Stevelomako said:(5) Problems.....any problems that anyone has with something or someone should definately be brought to our attention. You can discreetly tell myself, Don or Timberly and if we need to speak to anyone about any kind of behavior it's been agreed on that I will be the one to handle it and I'll take care of it privately. No one else needs to know anything either way. Other than a couple of minor things last year everything went pretty well for the first time so we don't forsee any problems this year.
So just to get this straight, you ran a raffle under the AzB name without consulting with the owner of the site. And when an employee of the IPT (owned by a man with deep pockets, a team of lawyers and most likely a bone to pick with that site because of all the bad press he got on the forums) threatened you and tried to report the raffle, you never saw a reason to at least inform the owner of the site about it?
Not really sure I would qualify that behavior as helpful to anyone.
There's not a whole lot I can do about the situation since I didn't find out until AFTER the raffle was over.
You think that the "free advertising" that I got from a banner in a room full of forum members is a terrible thing and that the room should be disassociated from the AzB site even though the room was the brainchild of a heavy supporter of the forums.
There was a large banner on the wall outside of the room and two signs at the intersection of the main hall and the hall the room was in. I think the confusion it causes and your lack of support are reasons for the name change.
In your next post, you suggested that we associate the room with the magazine that you voluntarily work for although to the best of my knowledge Tom was never a member of that magazine's website.
I suggested that we open the room to TWO other sites and I never once mentioned the name of either site.
I personally think that you are an ego driven, attention craving individual that will do anything that she can to make some people believe that she is someone in this industry.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it might be. I genuinely enjoy being helpful and as a person I am adamant about honesty and integrity. The people that take the time to get to know me, know this. For those that care to think of it as ego but don't care to take the time to get to know me... sorry about your luck. You missed out on opportunity to have a true friend in your life.
As for trying to make people believe that I'm "someone" in this industry... all I can do is laugh at the absurdity. If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times... I'm just a fan that used to play pool (decently, not WPBA skill level) and that many yrs ago I lived in the area that had all the action at the time. Because of this, I befriended many players that were at that time short stops at best but have since moved onto pro status. I've never pretended that I'm "someone" just because I know a few players and have since met people within the industry. When people mistakenly think that I actually work for InsidePOOL, I'm quick to point out that I simply help them with their booth at Derby, that's it. A couple of yrs ago at the party in Valley Forge one of the bigwigs from Predator (Indian guy, I can't remember his name) asked me "so, who are you?". My answer to him was "no one in relation to the pool world, I'm just a fan". That's the kind of person I really am, regardless of your misconstrued perception.
The difference is that you make your opinion known by trumpeting it on the forums and looking for supporters. I usually try to keep my opinion to myself.
I am the type of person that's always spoken my mind, even though I knew I would catch flak for it and it might not be the popular opinion. I do that willingly... alone. I've never asked anyone to support me or come to my rescue... ever. The closest I've come to that would be tonight when I asked if Greg or Eydie were so inclined to put the truth about the room out there so that people know that I'm not lying. If one or the both of them decides to do so, great. If not, that's ok too... I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to get involved in our disagreement. I know the truth, and the people that know me, know that I wouldn't lie about it.
Thank you for clarifying this. I am very grateful to you for doing this on your own accord.JRcue said:Mike/Timberly,
I hate to jump in the middle at such a late time, but I feel the need to clarify the room situation.
The room Timberly was in was indeed paid for by Greg, but it was compensation towards Inside POOL Magazine. The room that Timberly stayed in was under Inside POOL Magazine and hers.
With all that Greg had going on, I can see an error or two coming out in the aftermath of an event that size. Maybe he even misunderstood the question about "who paid?" and what you were really asking, Mike.
I can say this: Timberly was there, she did a great job all around and we're all better for her having done so.
Just trying to clarify,
JR
Timberly said:Neither one of us has thought very highly of the other for quite awhile. Sadly, a lot of it probably has to do with misinformation from other people given to us about the other. At this point, it doesn't matter... I'm going to simply agree to disagree with you at this point because I feel we've reached the point of going in circles. You can get the last word in this. I've made my DCC experience post and said the thank you's that I wanted to say. I'm finally at the point to where I'm ready to keep my word... I am officially out of your hair.
Donovan said:OK, well I for one am excited about next years room, because I am going to get there some how. I want to thank everyone involved in organizing this stuff for the last 2 years and say thanks ahead of time for anyone involved for next year.
I personally think Tom wanted this room for AZB and 1P for two reasons. One it would be a great place for those of us who post on these 2 boards, as he did, to get together and hoping it would help our community grow. I can't speak for him, of course, so this is just how I saw it from the posts and PM's in the past. Thousands of these forums go up all the time and very few really get taken hold of and do well. I want ours to survive. If we are promoting it even just a little, I can't think of a better a more focussed, taget audience.
As Papa Jay has said, people know our room and that says alot for only two years of existence. We are a growing word in the pool community. We get mentioned on TV and the magazines now. You have to realize that this is due to us. The forum AZB and 1P members are making this happen. This something you should be proud of. I don't about you, but when I hear an interview or discussion on TV and they mention our community, I get excited. I personally think that is great. 8700 AZB and 1300 1P (yes there are many duplicates) voices makes one strong voice.
The Hall of Fame dinner is the sweetest and down right most respectful thing done at the DCC in my opinion. That is like the coolest thing ever. In a time, when young player have know idea who Melvin ‘Strawberry’ Brooks, John ‘Rags’ Fitzpatrick, Hayden Lingo, John 'Cannonball' Chapman, Vernon Elliott and Chicago's Javanley 'Youngblood' Washington even are. Hell, I hadn't even heard of one of them before the nomination process began. Through onepocket.org, I got to learn about these people and others who were nominated this year. For me there aren't words to express how much all that means to me and to others. This is a treat! We are apart of this.
AZBilliards is the place you go to for great pictures, tournament information, and a place one can go to have a serious discussion about the hobby we and others truly love. A worldly view of your sport. People from all over the globe chime in hear. That is so incredible.
Where else can one go to write to some of the pros in their sport and actually get answers back? AZB and 1P allow us this special gift. I sometimes even forget how special that really is. If one thing has happened from all of this, is that I will not forget how appreciative I am of all of this.
All the people involved with the DCC project are fantastic. I thank them all form the bottom of my heart! I do thank Timberly and Mike for stating the things that they have to give us their views of the situation. Being informed is important. However, let's now focus on the future of the room and not on the past. Let's work on how we want this experiance to grow or not grow. I for one want our community to grow and I do want to continue to share this experience with anyone who takes the time to log in and get involved. This is only my opinion, and if I have not stated this better before now...
OK, cuejoey wants me to get down off this soap box before a I fall off and get hurt. He's a good guy. BTW, are there weight restrictions on this box?
Thanks and I love all of yous guys out there!!!!
derekdisco said:Lets get back to the subject, I personally like, "king master lord derekdiscos room of loyal servants" , kinda catchy
watchez said:I hesitated in posting this but after hearing several people refer to Tom & his reason for wanting the AZBilliards room, I finally feel like it needs to be said. Sure, Tom was a friendly guy that loved to talk & what better way to have a captive audience then to have a room where all could gather. But, also remember that Tom was a hustler. What better way to get a bunch of people together for him to play? Instead of spending his time, mulling thru the crowd at the DCC trying to find a game and how to approach a player, having a room would bring the crowd to him. Many don't know how good Tom used to play but back in the late 70's, early 80's he was the 8 ball under Louie Roberts. Think about how smooth & cool Corey looks at the table, Tom had the same demeanor. Up until his battle with cancer, Tom was still the favorite to beat most posters here on AZ. A large percentage he could stall against & still beat. And all the while, I am sure most still would have enjoyed themselves as they were losing. Tom had that affect on people. I am just sorry that I never got to see Tom carry out 'his dream' of the DCC.
Ok, Timberly & AZ Mike carry on with your battle.
If you think that Tom was going to play pool in that room, on that table for 10 days for the shear enjoyment of it and the comradery of AZ than you obviously didn't know Tom.Nostroke said:You think that "needs to be said" ???? Unfounded wild speculation "needs to be said" ????
and wanst he there last year? In the 2 years of the room, I dont think I saw $20 pass hands at the table. What was he gonna score, a ham sandwhich?
watchez said:If you think that Tom was going to play pool in that room, on that table for 10 days for the shear enjoyment of it and the comradery of AZ than you obviously didn't know Tom.