if you dont play it and cant watch onepocket

jrctherake · Dec 25, 2019

bbb said:
a poster in another thread in a response to my post about onepocket said
"Nooooo... That’s like saying eventually you will enjoy watching paint dry lol "
i say to those who have similar feelings about onepocket
its probably because you dont understand it
and admire the intricacies of the game,
a well played safety or a pocket speed bank that just dribbles into the pocket or carom
or understanding how one player is out thinking the other
are all things of beauty and immense enjoyment to me........
but i guess there is chocolate and vanilla for reasons......:thumbup:

I understand exactly what your saying and it may very well be true for most that don't enjoy 1hole but, I for one hate playing 1hole because of the, what seems like an eternity between shots.

On the other hand, I enjoy playing 1hole with a reasonable shot clock thats appropriate for 1hole.

IMO, if a person (no matter who or for how much) can't find and execute the right shot within ~90 seconds....well, they are boring and I will not watch unless I have something on the game. Just to watch...to watch? Hell no.

Again, I do understand what your saying. IMO, any game can be ruined by a player that is slow enough to matter.

Jeff

AtLarge · Dec 25, 2019

ShootingArts said:
... If you understand what is happening it can be riveting while somebody else watching the same game is bored stiff. ...

Yes, but it would be wrong to put all the bored-stiff people in the don't-understand-what-is-happening bucket. Sometimes 1-Pkt. enthusiasts try to do that.

garczar · Dec 25, 2019

Ratamon said:
I like this rule but I don’t think Grady ever came round to implementing it in any of his Legends tourneys. I also like moving scores forwards only (i.e. if you take an intentional, your opponent takes any ball and puts it on his shelf but has to shoot).

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He used it at his poolroom tourneys. I don't know about the Legends.

jrctherake · Dec 25, 2019

AtLarge said:
Yes, but it would be wrong to put all the bored-stiff people in the don't-understand-what-is-happening bucket. Sometimes 1-Pkt. enthusiasts try to do that.

I agree 1000%.

A good example is 14.1. Most people can't stand 14.1 for long periods of time. Add a slow player to the mix...it puts most to sleep. I know 100 ball runners that literally hate to "just" watch.

Same with snooker....even at the elit

The level of play doesn't matter. The bet doesn't matter if I'm not involved. I have to either be playing or have something on the line for me to watch and truly stay engaged in slower games.

Jeff

deanoc · Dec 25, 2019

my screen is too big

i can not see the entire thread,i keep having to scoot the ble thing over to see the far side
how do i get it proper size?

garczar · Dec 25, 2019

deanoc said:
i can not see the entire thread,i keep having to scoot the ble thing over to see the far side
how do i get it proper size?

Hold down Ctrl and hit +/- to increase/decrease size.

logical · Dec 25, 2019

deanoc said:
i can not see the entire thread,i keep having to scoot the ble thing over to see the far side

how do i get it proper size?

You aren't missing anything.

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1 Pocket Ghost · Dec 25, 2019

Ratamon said:
I like this rule but I don’t think Grady ever came round to implementing it in any of his Legends tourneys. I also like moving scores forwards only (i.e. if you take an intentional, your opponent takes any ball and puts it on his shelf but has to shoot).

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Yes, he did....in Grady's Legends tournament, which I played in, that was held in Columbia, South Carolina in, I think 2002, we used the 'Grady rule'.

- Ghost

jrctherake · Dec 25, 2019

deanoc said:
i can not see the entire thread,i keep having to scoot the ble thing over to see the far side
how do i get it proper size?

Its basically one group of people having a different "opinion" about things that are not set in stone.

Very, very few things are set in stone. Most everything has variations. 1hole is no different.

Jeff

Ratamon · Dec 27, 2019

JazzyJeff87 said:
Maybe just give an already made ball to your opponent and if you have none yet then just keep track like with a ball owed.

That could be an option. You are right, giving any ball is sometimes too big an advantage but equally you just don’t take a scratch in those situations

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Ratamon · Dec 27, 2019

1 Pocket Ghost said:
Yes, he did....in Grady's Legends tournament, which I played in, that was held in Columbia, South Carolina in, I think 2002, we used the 'Grady rule'.

- Ghost

I stand corrected then. I didn’t know there had been the Legends tournaments other than those four recorded by Accu-stats.

In the first one which was also held in Columbia, SC Grady introduced a rule of one intentional per game which raised quite a bit of controversy among players (e.g. how one interprets a two or three rail kick which misses a ball by the opponent’s pocket) and was abandoned in later tournaments

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nick serdula · May 1, 2020

Spot

I have seen and been told if you gamble large and play the champions you need to say before a ball is hit the third push is loss of game. Not in a row either. Kills alot of moves.
They will just push until they can make them all. Stops that.
Nick

David in FL · May 1, 2020

I’d rather play a round of golf, or watch grass grow.

The former is quicker and the latter more exciting. :grin:

straightline · May 1, 2020

Rules I'd use.

Intentionals, at least minus two. Subsequent intentionals more. Minus 5 each sounds good or a constant incrementing of the damage; or just plain ball in hand.

Play to the last ball of each rack and just keep a running total.

philly · May 1, 2020

bbb said:
a poster in another thread in a response to my post about onepocket said
"Nooooo... That’s like saying eventually you will enjoy watching paint dry lol "
i say to those who have similar feelings about onepocket
its probably because you dont understand it
and admire the intricacies of the game,
a well played safety or a pocket speed bank that just dribbles into the pocket or carom
or understanding how one player is out thinking the other
are all things of beauty and immense enjoyment to me........
but i guess there is chocolate and vanilla for reasons......:thumbup:

I play all of the games.
One pocket takes every ounce of pool knowledge you have in your tool box.
Sooner or later in a pool playing career you figure that out.

Hope you're well BBB.

philly · May 1, 2020

strmanglr scott said:
Don't play it and don't watch it. Tell me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be a game that shouldn't be played on anything smaller than a 9ft table.

I don't watch much pool, rather play.

You are correct.
Goes for 14.1 too.
As a matter of fact let's get rid of bar boxes and bring back ten footers.

Black-Balled · May 1, 2020

https://youtu.be/5jTD37IzMq8?t=176

That isn't badass?

bbb · May 1, 2020

Black-Balled said:
https://youtu.be/5jTD37IzMq8?t=176

That isn't badass?

a masterpiece...shot of beauty
thanks for the link

maha · May 1, 2020

a good player looks at an 8 ball open table or a 9 ball open table and should be able to know how all the balls in his runout are going. just a matter of if he can execute his plan or not.

in one pocket the table is ever changing and it isnt who the best shooter and position player is who wins. it adds in who is the smartest and knows what is the highest percentage shots for him to take.

so it appeals to a different mindset of players.

Patrick Johnson · May 1, 2020

maha said:
...in one pocket the table is ever changing and it isnt who the best shooter and position player is who wins. it adds in who is the smartest and knows what is the highest percentage shots for him to take.

Just one of the many unique things about 1 pocket:

Virtually every shot must be a two-way on a difficult shot that leaves your opponent shotless but leaves you with a followup. That's also what's happening against you.

My favorite aspect of 1 pocket is probably what others don't like:

It's more like martial arts sparring - you're both throwing punches back and forth, usually changing player each shot, reacting to the position you've been put in and trying to return the favor. Single-player performances with multi-ball runs are the exception.

pj <- 1-pocket victim
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