Jennifer "shot clock" Barretta
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u dont have to be snookered-can make him shoot again in any event after a miss!
as an aside, Jennifer Barretta would have little problem beating most, if not all of us, posting in this thread.
truth :yeah:
best,
brian kc
truth :yeah:
best,
brian kc
The pace of a tournament is dictated by two things:
1.) The players respect for the time slot they are given to play their match --- and their earnest effort to complete their match within their given time slot. Yes, matches sometimes go over but the player making the effort is what's important.
2.) The tournament management's enforcement of the time slot allotted to players for their matches (within reason).
Neither of the above are being practiced with any consistency. This goes for both men and women. Players will change their pace if they know that the time slot restriction will be enforced in some way by management. But this has to be enforced for all players, all the time, not just occasionally. I don't think that this means players have to be on the clock at all times. I think management needs to intervene in slow matches earlier, first starting with a warning, like they do in golf. Often, a player doesn't realize how much they've slowed down and actually would appreciate hearing that they need to speed up the pace. It would probably even help their game.
If a player has a history of being consistently slow, then it wouldn't be unreasonable for management to remind them before their match to keep up the pace. Most players do want to cooperate, but you can understand how they must feel if they think they are the only ones having to change their pace while other players who are also slow are getting away with it. That's why it has to be done across the board, all the time.
1.) The players respect for the time slot they are given to play their match --- and their earnest effort to complete their match within their given time slot. Yes, matches sometimes go over but the player making the effort is what's important.
2.) The tournament management's enforcement of the time slot allotted to players for their matches (within reason).
Neither of the above are being practiced with any consistency. This goes for both men and women. Players will change their pace if they know that the time slot restriction will be enforced in some way by management. But this has to be enforced for all players, all the time, not just occasionally. I don't think that this means players have to be on the clock at all times. I think management needs to intervene in slow matches earlier, first starting with a warning, like they do in golf. Often, a player doesn't realize how much they've slowed down and actually would appreciate hearing that they need to speed up the pace. It would probably even help their game.
If a player has a history of being consistently slow, then it wouldn't be unreasonable for management to remind them before their match to keep up the pace. Most players do want to cooperate, but you can understand how they must feel if they think they are the only ones having to change their pace while other players who are also slow are getting away with it. That's why it has to be done across the board, all the time.
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D through B minus players- 8 ball is a safety game as they cant break up clusters, move other balls around etc and run out. If they like winning they have to go w safes and hope their opponent tries to run-out.
A+ and Open players run out- It is too easy of a game for them, truthfully-unless of course you throw in the rounded tiny pockets a la Chinese 8 Ball..
No s^&t!! Make it like a cattle-prod. Have it shock the player who goes over time limit. I'd pay to sweat it for sure.
Jb
I haven't seen JB play much, but I checked out the link above. I just looked at one rack. Jennifer breaks the balls at 9:55 and pockets a ball. The balls lay ok but there is a tough transition as the four ball is tough to fall on. She makes the one ball, shoots the two to get a good angle on the three, falls well on the four ball short side for a pocket up table, then has to put the four down with some interference with her bridge, and finally mops up the remaining balls in short order. Pockets the 9 ball at 13:20 or so.
3 1/2 minutes for a very smooth break and run. Very little fiddling around between shots. The last few balls she didn't rush, but she absolutely just shot them in.
I've seen horrendously slow play but based on what I just saw my verdict is that JB is doing just fine.
I haven't seen JB play much, but I checked out the link above. I just looked at one rack. Jennifer breaks the balls at 9:55 and pockets a ball. The balls lay ok but there is a tough transition as the four ball is tough to fall on. She makes the one ball, shoots the two to get a good angle on the three, falls well on the four ball short side for a pocket up table, then has to put the four down with some interference with her bridge, and finally mops up the remaining balls in short order. Pockets the 9 ball at 13:20 or so.
3 1/2 minutes for a very smooth break and run. Very little fiddling around between shots. The last few balls she didn't rush, but she absolutely just shot them in.
I've seen horrendously slow play but based on what I just saw my verdict is that JB is doing just fine.
Its not just the overall speed but how she seems to almost freeze when down on the ball. I've watched Buddy play a lot. He takes his time sizing up a shot but never takes this long to pull the trigger. It looks like indecision to me and she misses tough/key shots because of it. She's not the lone ranger in this regard but she happens to be subject here.
Ugh!!Kaci/Baretta....make a tough scotch dbls team eh.
I meant the 8 in 9ball sorry. It was bad.
The video must be an anomaly.
At the Expo the last 2 yrs anyway, her and a majority of the women players were extremely slow.
Last year stands out in my memory. The mens final was delayed a long while waiting. Finally they started while the women's semis were still going. (JB again)
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We put Jen on our own shot clock this yr. before Ref did.
It was nothing like the video in that link.
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There's a reason that the women's matches are set up in alternating tables with the men in the arena at the Expo. It hides the truth.
If they were in different rooms or grouped together. The women's stands would be nearly empty.
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BNRs are fast, but its the games that involves safeties. That 3min game becomes a 15min game. Race to 7 becomes 2+ hrs, which is treacherous.
Actually it seems that feature is already built in!
KMRUNOUT
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Exactly.
.....And BnR's are few and far between it seems.
No bet!!!!!!
I needed a signature, thanks :thumbup:
I wish dhe was at Expo!
Will definitely show wife her matches.
Problem with that logic is you couldn't criticize most athletes.
I can't throw as good as any major leaguer. But if they have a 6.5 ERA I can sure say they stink.
Can't beat anybody on the UFC roster. But some of them really suck at their "profession".
I can't kick a 30 yd field goal.
The list goes on and on for 99% of the population.
Criticism of a Pro is perfectly fine. They put themselves out there.
If nobody cared then they wouldn't make squat. It's not rosy all the time.
JC
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This is a pool forum to talk about pool stuff. That's what he did. Didn't call her a whore or insult her family. Didn't bash her in any way. Just observed quite correctly that watching her play is mind numbing.
I don't think you should be banned but you ought to take a deep breath and a break from posting.
JC
JC
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And the only possible way to accomplish this without someone feeling they were being singled out and picked on is with a time clock. A clock doesn't lie to you but perceptions will.
JC