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SJM is Begging You - Support Matchroom!
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Moderator,
This post is offensive. "Americans have not had a idol that looks like them since Larry Bird!" speaks for itself. I do not know the process for requesting removal of a post but this one should be considered for removal.
Jay, like you and pretty much any pool fan, I hope them opening the field to 256 doesn't prove fatal or at least cause the problems that we all know and hate.
As you said, 4 days before finals would have took a lot of would-be problems pretty much out of the equation or, as far out as they could've been and still hold an event of that magnitude.
Fingers crossed!!!!!
Wow. Steve, you are so lucky! Take photos. I want to hear about your experience competing too. This is cool. Very cool!
I do not think the post was offensive. Kid is just sharing his opinion. He is disappointed in the payouts and a few other things about the event. It's okay. He didn't insult anyone. Some of his thoughts have merit.
Matchroom needs to get you in the booth, Jay. I like Ted and Karl and Alex, but we need an American's voice there too, one who knows the players as well as the game itself.
I'm just as enthusiastic as you, Jay, and your concerns are justified. Nonetheless, the production costs must be managed by Matchroom and adding a day would add significantly to those costs. More than anything, I want this event to succeed financially, and year one may test Matchroom to the max in terms of logistics and planning.
If the schedule proves too ambitious, though, and Tuesday's late matches, which will seal the last spots in the knockout round, go into the wee hours, a change may be needed for 2020. Should that prove the case, though, I don't think they need to add a day. They could, of course, just a) start the daily sessions at 8:00 AM rather than 9:00 AM for the first three days, or b) make loser side matches races to 10 instead of 11.
I know that Matchroom has been very ambitious in allowing such a large field. Let's face it, 256 is aggressive, but I see it as a step forward for the event. That said, though, the financial sustainability of the event, to me, matters more than anything.
Growing pains may well be in play here, but in year one, we'll see how it goes.
I'm happy the final 16 individual stage will be broadcast on DAZN here in Canada. (of which I'm a subscriber for Snooker and Darts, etc.)
Should be production knowing Matchroom.
Should be production knowing Matchroom.
This is America!
Are you saying that the beneficiaries of the seeding are not white!
Are you saying that those hurt are not Asian
For the third time! Why deviate from luck of the draw and established ranking systems ???
Lots of people here don't like me cause I rock the boat! But, tell that to all the young guns that got their shot because of the big stink I have made over the years!
Do you think that they would have gotten the spot light! Or would it still be Archer, Morris, hatch, Williams , CJ for eternity!
Right is right and wrong is wrong! Sadly, integrity is in short supply around here!
Sincerely,
Kd
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You're right to be excited. For years, we've seen Matchroom shine in one-table format streams/telecasts, especially at the Mosconi. Nobody produces a better product in pool.
One of the suggestions I made early on to our friend Luke was to play the first three day matches as a Race to Nine and not Eleven. You and I both know how long a Race to Eleven can take even with a shot clock. I made other suggestions as well (32 tables minimum, shot clock on every match, referee racks), most of which they have acted on, which I'm glad to see. I also told him about the way we play the Swanee tournament in two days with 192 players. We use a "roll on, roll off" method of scheduling matches, meaning we go right down the list and the next match starts as soon as a table opens up. By scheduling so tight a time frame, they have done essentially that.
Like you say here, this first event with 256 players will be a learning experience for Matchroom. Regardless of that I fully expect to see a very professionally run event with a well coordinated staff and ample accommodations made for the players. That's the Matchroom way!
By the way for those who are interested, they will have to play 480 matches in three days to pare the field down to sixteen final players. It's going to be a very busy place in that ballroom of the Mandalay Bay. I can see everybody moving around from area to area to watch the best matches all day long. Should be fun vying for seats, with standing room only for the best match ups. Kind of like what we are used to at Derby City. :smile:
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A running schedule is a great idea! Next up then next table available is yours! It gets funny with the TV table!
Only suggestion I would make having played in events is no back to back matches. Get off one table and right to another with out the ability to catch your breath!
With the rolling table use you could skip one section with the delay and move on! But, seen it so many times that they want to wait for someone or play catch up at the expense of the players that are fatigue and in need of a few minutes to eat and re-energize.
Just some food for thought on the topic!
Kd
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As an example of what Matchroom has done for snooker, for the World Championship which is about to start, there are sixteen or so players who just qualified in special pre-tournament qualifiers. Each of those players will receive at least $13,000 even if they win no match in the main event.
Actually 488, Jay. The 240 players who are out will have each lost twice = 480 matches. But 8 of the final 16 players will have lost once, so that's another 8 matches = 488.
Or, you can count the number of matches in each round:
Winners' side: 128 + 64 + 32 + 16 + 8 = 248
Losers' side: 64 + 64 + 32 + 32 + 16 + 16 + 8 + 8 = 240
Total: 488 matches, leaving 8 players undefeated and 8 with 1 loss going to single-elimination
[This assumes no forfeits.]
So, what young guns owe their career's to you and what does Larry Bird have to do with anything pool? I do agree it should be luck of the draw, you pull another champ so be it.
Don't see any names.
Excellent point. I have seen tournament directors get this wrong on numerous occasions over the years.
In a double elimination tournament that has lots of tables you will have back-to-back matches in the later stages. If you are in the losers' bracket you can expect to play continuously towards the end.
The alternative is to stretch out the tournament to take longer by adding breaks. I think the best the players can hope for is a 20 minute break minimum between matches. Perhaps that is stated in the player's contract.
The tentative match times for the first few rounds are shown on the on-line chart at https://cuescore.com/tournament/bracket/?id=5185877 and it is obviously roll-on-roll-off. During the first few rounds it is very easy to avoid back-to-backs. Later is it more or less impossible.
I see that they are starting at 9AM Sunday and the last match of the day is scheduled for a 9:30PM start. There will be about seven matches per table and it looks like they are estimating two hours per match.
I think the Cuescore people who are handling the scheduling are very competent and will do the best job possible given that the double-elimination part must finish in three days.