Top 10 Things Pool Players Do Wrong … and How to Fix Them

dr_dave

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And the thumbnail for the video needs to have a large breasted scantily clad woman too. Even if there is no woman of any shape or size in the actual vid.

This seems to work, at least for getting me to click on it :grin:

JC
Maybe I should also include, in big letters, in addition the large-breasted scantily-clad women: FREE SEX, FREE BEER, FREE PIZZA :eek:

Maybe I should also hire Venom-style models to lay on the table in sexy poses while I execute the shots. :cool:

Maybe I should also include some porno background music. :rolleyes:

Then typical pool players would really want to watch my stuff. :thumbup:



But that wouldn't be my style ... sorry. :frown:

Thanks for the input,
Dave
 

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Dr Dave, Thanks for the video, very good stuff. I found number 4 to be of interest to me since it seems to be an on going situation, primarily on longer shots. If this is the case and you recognize it as an alignment problem, even though it might very small, do you recommend making an adjustment in your aim or trying to adjust your alignment?
 

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Dr Dave, Thanks for the video, very good stuff. I found number 4 to be of interest to me since it seems to be an on going situation, primarily on longer shots. If this is the case and you recognize it as an alignment problem, even though it might very small, do you recommend making an adjustment in your aim or trying to adjust your alignment?
I personally don't like "Band-Aid" solutions. I always think it is better to try to fix the root cause ... in your case the "vision center" alignment issue. IMO, it is better to see straight rather than try to estimate corrections for different distances and angles.

Good luck,
Dave
 

JC

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Maybe I should also include, in big letters, in addition the large-breasted scantily-clad women: FREE SEX, FREE BEER, FREE PIZZA :eek:

Maybe I should also hire Venom-style models to lay on the table in sexy poses while I execute the shots. :cool:

Maybe I should also include some porno background music. :rolleyes:

Then typical pool players would really want to watch my stuff. :thumbup:



But that wouldn't be my style ... sorry. :frown:

Thanks for the input,
Dave

Don't be such a prude Dave:rotflmao1:

JC
 

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I just posted a new video on YouTube:

NV J.13 - Top 10 Things Pool Players Do Wrong … and How to Fix Them

Check it out. I identify and offer advice for how to correct the following top 10 things many pool players do wrong:
1.) Cue Elevation
2.) Sloppy Bridge
3.) High Stance
4.) Poor Alignment and Aim
5.) Cue and Eye Motion
6.) No Pre-Shot Routine
7.) Sidespin
8.) Tight Grip
9.) Bad Stroke
10.) Head and Body Motion

I look forward to your feedback, comments, and questions.

Enjoy,
Dave


Great list but you left out two things I see far two often:

11) For most players pool is supposed to a fun activity..embrace that!!
12) Have a good attitude..For most players when you put the balls away you go back to things that really matter: family,friends,work etc.Don't let pool turn you into an asshole!
 

dr_dave

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Maybe I should also include, in big letters, in addition the large-breasted scantily-clad women: FREE SEX, FREE BEER, FREE PIZZA :eek:

Maybe I should also hire Venom-style models to lay on the table in sexy poses while I execute the shots. :cool:

Maybe I should also include some porno background music. :rolleyes:

Then typical pool players would really want to watch my stuff. :thumbup:



But that wouldn't be my style ... sorry. :frown:

Thanks for the input,
Dave

Don't be such a prude Dave:rotflmao1:
OK. I'll try to get permission from my wife and from my university administrators to "let it loose" with the "sexual marketing" in my next video. Wish my luck! :grin-square: :withstupid:

Regards,
Dave
 

dr_dave

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I just posted a new video on YouTube:

NV J.13 - Top 10 Things Pool Players Do Wrong … and How to Fix Them

Check it out. I identify and offer advice for how to correct the following top 10 things many pool players do wrong:
1.) Cue Elevation
2.) Sloppy Bridge
3.) High Stance
4.) Poor Alignment and Aim
5.) Cue and Eye Motion
6.) No Pre-Shot Routine
7.) Sidespin
8.) Tight Grip
9.) Bad Stroke
10.) Head and Body Motion

I look forward to your feedback, comments, and questions.

Enjoy,
Dave

Great list but you left out two things I see far two often:

11) For most players pool is supposed to a fun activity..embrace that!!
12) Have a good attitude..For most players when you put the balls away you go back to things that really matter: family,friends,work etc.Don't let pool turn you into an asshole!
Excellent additions!!!

Like at the top of my fundamental resource page, I like to summarize these important things like this:

FUNdaMENTALs

The most important fundamentals (besides having your personal "vision center" aligned properly) are having fun, having a good attitude, and having a strong mental game.

Regards,
Dave
 
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dr_dave

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FYI, I am thinking of doing a follow-up Top 10 video covering:

Top 10 Shots Pool Shots Amateurs Play Wrong

Here are some tentative ideas I have in mind:

1.) come off a rail (use the rail as a brake, and as your friend) rather than attempting to hold a shot with finesse (where throw or cling/skid/kick can cause a miss).
2.) using 45 degree rule off end rail to pocket game ball (9 or 10) with a confident stroke with no risk of scratch.
3.) thin cut a ball instead of banking it (unless it is an easy, fairly straight cross-side or cross-corner bank).
4.) use slow speed at shallow angles into corner pockets to make effective size of pocket larger (instead of hammering it and rattling the ball).
5.) when using slow speed, especially with stun, aim to over-cut the ball slightly to compensate for throw (or use gearing outside english).
6.) when breaking out clusters, use the slowest speed possible to get a controlled and desirable outcome.
7.) when banking, use either slow speed (for natural rolling-ball) or fast speed (to guarantee ball slide), both of which have predictable rebound angles.
8.) aim firm, close-range follow shots slightly full to compensate for ball-hop over-cut effect.
9.) don't use sidespin when there are good alternatives with no sidespin
10.) don't bump a good ball into a bad position, but do bump bad balls into good positions.
11.) use stun-roll-through or stun-back by adjusting the tip slightly from the easy-to-judge stop-shot position.
12.) plan position so you can follow for the dough instead of drawing for show (unless the draw shot is natural).
13.) leave angles on shots, stay on the correct side of each shot, come into the line of the next shot, and keep CB motion to a minimum.
14.) identify and solve problems early, and identify key shots and key balls to get on the key shots (especially the game ball).
15.) on the break, use only as much power as you can control (an accurate, square hit with good technique is much more effective than lots of muscle).
16.) use running spin to make a steep rail cut shot much easier (and hit cushion first).
17.) throwing vs. cutting frozen and small-gap combos.

Can you guys think of any other shots that novice and lower intermediate players often shoot wrong?

And do you have any input or suggestions concerning the tentative list above?

Before filming, I want to narrow the list down to the 10 most interesting and useful examples, especially those not covered in other videos I already have posted online.

Thanks,
Dave
 

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I have noticed that almost every player under cuts a shot when jacked up over an object ball.
I always take what i think is the correct aim and then cut it just a little more.
Is this because the the eyes are so much higher then normal?

Is this one to add to your list?
 

dr_dave

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I have noticed that almost every player under cuts a shot when jacked up over an object ball.
I always take what i think is the correct aim and then cut it just a little more.
Is this because the the eyes are so much higher then normal?
When some (if not many) people elevate the cue, their "vision center" tends to drift. For most right-handers, the head will usually be too far to the left in the elevated position. This usually causes the CB to go more to the right than expected, assuming the tip hits the CB on the vertical centerline, but not everybody responds to the perception difficulties the same way.

Is this one to add to your list?
Good suggestion! I'll add the following to the tentative list:

18.) When you elevate the cue to clear a ball, to swerve, or to jump, keep your vision center over the cue, and aim in the non-elevated position. Also, elevate as little as necessary.

Thanks,
Dave
 

dr_dave

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FYI, I am thinking of doing a follow-up Top 10 video covering:

Top 10 Shots Pool Shots Amateurs Play Wrong

Here are some tentative ideas I have in mind:

1.) come off a rail (use the rail as a brake, and as your friend) rather than attempting to hold a shot with finesse (where throw or cling/skid/kick can cause a miss).
2.) using 45 degree rule off end rail to pocket game ball (9 or 10) with a confident stroke with no risk of scratch.
3.) thin cut a ball instead of banking it (unless it is an easy, fairly straight cross-side or cross-corner bank).
4.) use slow speed at shallow angles into corner pockets to make effective size of pocket larger (instead of hammering it and rattling the ball).
5.) when using slow speed, especially with stun, aim to over-cut the ball slightly to compensate for throw (or use gearing outside english).
6.) when breaking out clusters, use the slowest speed possible to get a controlled and desirable outcome.
7.) when banking, use either slow speed (for natural rolling-ball) or fast speed (to guarantee ball slide), both of which have predictable rebound angles.
8.) aim firm, close-range follow shots slightly full to compensate for ball-hop over-cut effect.
9.) don't use sidespin when there are good alternatives with no sidespin
10.) don't bump a good ball into a bad position, but do bump bad balls into good positions.
11.) use stun-roll-through or stun-back by adjusting the tip slightly from the easy-to-judge stop-shot position.
12.) plan position so you can follow for the dough instead of drawing for show (unless the draw shot is natural).
13.) leave angles on shots, stay on the correct side of each shot, come into the line of the next shot, and keep CB motion to a minimum.
14.) identify and solve problems early, and identify key shots and key balls to get on the key shots (especially the game ball).
15.) on the break, use only as much power as you can control (an accurate, square hit with good technique is much more effective than lots of muscle).
16.) use running spin to make a steep rail cut shot much easier (and hit cushion first).
17.) throwing vs. cutting frozen and small-gap combos.
18.) when you elevate the cue to clear a ball, to swerve, or to jump, keep your vision center over the cue, and aim in the non-elevated position. Also, elevate as little as necessary.

Can you guys think of any other shots that novice and lower intermediate players often shoot wrong?

And do you have any input or suggestions concerning the tentative list above?

Before filming, I want to narrow the list down to the 10 most interesting and useful examples, especially those not covered in other videos I already have posted online.

Thanks,
Dave
Does anybody else have any suggestions for other types of shots that novice and intermediate players shoot wrong?

Thanks,
Dave
 

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Playing position for balls hanging in the pocket. Getting position when shooting hanging balls.
 

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I just posted a new video on YouTube:

NV J.13 - Top 10 Things Pool Players Do Wrong … and How to Fix Them

Check it out. I identify and offer advice for how to correct the following top 10 things many pool players do wrong:
1.) Cue Elevation
2.) Sloppy Bridge
3.) High Stance
4.) Poor Alignment and Aim
5.) Cue and Eye Motion
6.) No Pre-Shot Routine
7.) Sidespin
8.) Tight Grip
9.) Bad Stroke
10.) Head and Body Motion

I look forward to your feedback, comments, and questions.

Enjoy,
Dave

A wonderful video. I hope many will watch it and improve! THANK YOU.
 

BobTfromIL

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I personally don't like "Band-Aid" solutions. I always think it is better to try to fix the root cause ... in your case the "vision center" alignment issue. IMO, it is better to see straight rather than try to estimate corrections for different distances and angles.

Good luck,
Dave

Thanks for the reply, I'll start working on it right away.
 

dr_dave

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Playing position for balls hanging in the pocket. Getting position when shooting hanging balls.
Good idea. Here's the latest tentative list (that needs to be trimmed down to the 10 most important or interesting shots) for the new video: "Top 10 Shots Pool Shots Amateurs Play Wrong":

1.) come off a rail (use the rail as a brake, and as your friend) rather than attempting to hold a shot with finesse (where throw or cling/skid/kick can cause a miss).
2.) using 45 degree rule off end rail to pocket game ball (9 or 10) with a confident stroke with no risk of scratch.
3.) thin cut a ball instead of banking it (unless it is an easy, fairly straight cross-side or cross-corner bank).
4.) use slow speed at shallow angles into corner pockets to make effective size of pocket larger (instead of hammering it and rattling the ball).
5.) when using slow speed, especially with stun, aim to over-cut the ball slightly to compensate for throw (or use gearing outside english).
6.) when breaking out clusters, use the slowest speed possible to get a controlled and desirable outcome.
7.) when banking, use either slow speed (for natural rolling-ball) or fast speed (to guarantee ball slide), both of which have predictable rebound angles.
8.) aim firm, close-range follow shots slightly full to compensate for ball-hop over-cut effect.
9.) don't use sidespin when there are good alternatives with no sidespin
10.) don't bump a good ball into a bad position, but do bump bad balls into good positions.
11.) use stun-roll-through or stun-back by adjusting the tip slightly from the easy-to-judge stop-shot position.
12.) plan position so you can follow for the dough instead of drawing for show (unless the draw shot is natural).
13.) leave angles on shots, stay on the correct side of each shot, come into the line of the next shot, and keep CB motion to a minimum.
14.) identify and solve problems early, and identify key shots and key balls to get on the key shots (especially the game ball).
15.) on the break, use only as much power as you can control (an accurate, square hit with good technique is much more effective than lots of muscle).
16.) use running spin to make a steep rail cut shot much easier (and hit cushion first).
17.) throwing vs. cutting frozen and small-gap combos.
18.) when you elevate the cue to clear a ball, to swerve, or to jump, keep your vision center over the cue, and aim in the non-elevated position. Also, elevate as little as necessary.
19.) getting position on and off pocket hangers.
 

dr_dave

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I just posted a new video on YouTube:

NV J.13 - Top 10 Things Pool Players Do Wrong … and How to Fix Them

Check it out. I identify and offer advice for how to correct the following top 10 things many pool players do wrong:
1.) Cue Elevation
2.) Sloppy Bridge
3.) High Stance
4.) Poor Alignment and Aim
5.) Cue and Eye Motion
6.) No Pre-Shot Routine
7.) Sidespin
8.) Tight Grip
9.) Bad Stroke
10.) Head and Body Motion

I look forward to your feedback, comments, and questions.

Enjoy,
Dave

A wonderful video. I hope many will watch it and improve! THANK YOU.
Thanks Matt.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions for the new "Top 10 Shots Pool Shots Amateurs Play Wrong" video.

Catch you later,
Dave
 

dr_dave

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I personally don't like "Band-Aid" solutions. I always think it is better to try to fix the root cause ... in your case the "vision center" alignment issue. IMO, it is better to see straight rather than try to estimate corrections for different distances and angles.
Thanks for the reply, I'll start working on it right away.
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :grin-square:

Regards,
Dave
 

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Here's a good Tor Lowry video available for the next 3 days on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3hK0ncdqNw
I watched it yesterday. I think I already have on the list the important messages from that video. Maybe I'll add one more Tor's video reminded me of:

20.) don't play for tough position for an easier shot if easy position for a slightly tougher shot is available (i.e., "Just take what's offered").

Maybe I need to do two more Top 10 videos. 20 is too many, and I have a new rule to not let my YouTube videos exceed about 10 minutes (5 minutes is better where possible).

Thanks,
Dave
 
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dr_dave

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Here's the latest tentative list for the new video: "Top 10 Shots Pool Shots Amateurs Play Wrong":

1.) come off a rail (use the rail as a brake, and as your friend) rather than attempting to hold a shot with finesse (where throw or cling/skid/kick can cause a miss).
2.) using 45 degree rule off end rail to pocket game ball (9 or 10) with a confident stroke with no risk of scratch.
3.) thin cut a ball instead of banking it (unless it is an easy, fairly straight cross-side or cross-corner bank).
4.) use slow speed at shallow angles into corner pockets to make effective size of pocket larger (instead of hammering it and rattling the ball).
5.) when using slow speed, especially with stun, aim to over-cut the ball slightly to compensate for throw (or use gearing outside english).
6.) when breaking out clusters, use the slowest speed possible to get a controlled and desirable outcome.
7.) when banking, use either slow speed (for natural rolling-ball) or fast speed (to guarantee ball slide), both of which have predictable rebound angles.
8.) aim firm, close-range follow shots slightly full to compensate for ball-hop over-cut effect.
9.) don't use sidespin when there are good alternatives with no sidespin
10.) don't bump a good ball into a bad position, but do bump bad balls into good positions.
11.) use stun-roll-through or stun-back by adjusting the tip slightly from the easy-to-judge stop-shot position.
12.) plan position so you can follow for the dough instead of drawing for show (unless the draw shot is natural).
13.) leave angles on shots, stay on the correct side of each shot, come into the line of the next shot, and keep CB motion to a minimum.
14.) identify and solve problems early, and identify key shots and key balls to get on the key shots (especially the game ball).
15.) on the break, use only as much power as you can control (an accurate, square hit with good technique is much more effective than lots of muscle).
16.) use running spin to make a steep rail cut shot much easier (and hit cushion first).
17.) throwing vs. cutting frozen and small-gap combos.
18.) when you elevate the cue to clear a ball, to swerve, or to jump, keep your vision center over the cue, and aim in the non-elevated position. Also, elevate as little as necessary.
19.) getting position on and off pocket hangers.
20.) don't play for tough position for an easier shot if easy position for a slightly tougher shot is available (i.e., "Just take what's offered.").
21.) don't slow-roll the ball on a table that might have roll-off (use a drag shot, stun forward, or other option instead).
22.) use running english (instead of extra speed) to help send the CB along natural position routes with ease.
23.) never be uncertain about CB direction or the possibility of a scratch ... master the 90 deg, 30 deg, and trisect rules.
24.) don't just guess when aiming with sidespin ... use a system (like BHE/FHE calibration) and/or practice a lot more.
25.) know how to use the 45 degree rule to go to and through the center of the table.
26.) always play an easy lock-up safe instead of a low-percentage offensive shot.

Any other ideas for shots that amateurs play wrong?

I will probably film over the weekend.

Maybe I'll break it up into two separate videos: "Top 10 Shots Amateurs Play Wrong" and "Top 10 Position Plays Amateurs Get Wrong."

I'm kind of on the "Top 10" kick lately.

Thanks,
Dave
 
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