Not threading delrin butt plate does not make sense to me.
Strange construction in this cue in several ways....
Not threading delrin butt plate does not make sense to me.
Strange construction in this cue in several ways....
Not threading delrin butt plate does not make sense to me.
In the old days, butt plates were not necessarily threaded, or glued.. They were held in place with the weight bolt, that's all. As long as it was snug, it was fine. One of my Palmers and Joss cues can attest to this.
All the best,
WW
Buttcap is held on by a Phillips screw into the tenon, not the usual machine thread screw into the weight bolt. I’m guessing on it being Delrin, it’s fairly dirty and I haven’t cleaned it up yet.
But this cue does not even have that....no weight bolt.
Post #13 shows a picture of the screw. The Delrin fits onto the wood tenon. The small bumper fits into the Delrin. The Phillips screw goes through the bumper into the wood tenon.
I am guessing this was made by some dude in his garage, or an overseas copy of a Balabushka/Gus
Too many "not quality" things here, as well as obvious influence from their construction styles.
Really cool piece to have, especially if you got it cheap. Clean it up and enjoy it
From what I see and assume so far, essentially the bumper was holding the butt cap, not the screw head.
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The OP just said the screw does go into the tenon, which, although looks kind of short to do that, I guess we take his word for it. I don't think a bumper would hold a buttcap on the tenon, as nothing would be holding the buttcap on the tenon.
I tend to agree with you now that it's probably not a Joss, but I'm not sure who else did piloted 5/16 X 18 pins. And Joss always did weight bolts, even if light aluminum. I'd be curious as to how this is some dude in his garage, given the spliced points. That would be a pretty talented dude. Having said that, I've had conversations in my local pool room with a guy with a lathe in his garage that builds a few cues. It can be done.
All the best,
WW
I have a feeling the builder did not make the splice. But that does not mean much. GB built many great cues and never built a splice as far as anyone knows.
If you look at the end of the butt cap it is relieved for the bumper. The bumper is wider than the bore through the butt cap. Hence, screwing the bumper to the tenon would help hold the butt cap on, though not a great way to do it. It could easily move.
Yep, I see where the bumper goes into the buttcap. But, I don't see how that puts any pressure on the tenon the keep the buttcap in place. Also, we haven't seen that this is a threaded bumper to twist in. There could be some things we don't know, such as, is the screw long enough to go in the tenon? Also, is the buttcap to tenon fit so tight that nothing else was necessary? Don't know. Sometimes, even double coated tape, activated and dried with solvent can hold everything together.
Agree the blank could have come from elsewhere. Though, if a garage project, that is a pretty nice looking joint and pin. I have a feeling, if redone, proper cap and aluminum bolt put in, this may be a pretty nice looking cue, with those nice boxes in the sleeve. Even if it aint a George or Gus, and time has taken a toll, it looks like someone made an effort.
All the best,
WW
" Looking at the tenon with the grooves cut for glue-The OP just said the screw does go into the tenon, which, although looks kind of short to do that, I guess we take his word for it. I don't think a bumper would hold a buttcap on the tenon, as nothing would be holding the buttcap on the tenon.
I tend to agree with you now that it's probably not a Joss, but I'm not sure who else did piloted 5/16 X 18 pins. And Joss always did weight bolts, even if light aluminum. I'd be curious as to how this is some dude in his garage, given the spliced points. That would be a pretty talented dude. Having said that, I've had conversations in my local pool room with a guy with a lathe in his garage that builds a few cues. It can be done.
All the best,
WW