How Many Aiming Systems Do You Use
lou
just curious
why do you want to know??
I use no aiming systems.
Lou Figueroa
How Many Aiming Systems Do You Use
lou
just curious
why do you want to know??
I use no aiming systems.
Lou Figueroa
I use no aiming systems.
Lou Figueroa
How Many Aiming Systems Do You Use
lou
just curious
why do you want to know??
I use no aiming systems.
Lou Figueroa
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I find it hard to believe nobody uses the diamond system to kick ? I mean, for a one rail kick, it's almost impossible not to be accurate..... as long as your speed is good.
I'm with Lou on this one. May have used a 2 or 3-rail system a few times, but once you kick enough 2 and 3 rails you basically just know where to aim by looking at the shot and visualizing the cb's path.
I don't use any aiming systems, but I do look at the same things for each shot (CB contact point & where my stick is pointed in relation to it).I'm not sure but I feel this got buried in the other thread so I'd like to try again here:
It seems like everyone knows around a half dozen aiming systems, give tor take, well enough to pass on to someone else. So the next logical questions Is: how many of these systems to you actually use shot-to-shot, day-in-day-out?
Me, I know half a dozen systems and use... none of them -- zippo. I also know a few kicking systems but when I have to go one or three rails I use exactly: zero. (OK, one time I used the Spot on the Wall.) I have books, and videos, and DVDS with huge steaming piles of aiming systems... but I use none. As I've oft said, I just see the shot and shoot the shot.
I use no systems though I have the knowledge and resources to do so if wanted. How 'bout you?
Lou Figueroa
I don't use any aiming systems, but I do look at the same things for each shot (CB contact point & where my stick is pointed in relation to it).
I think my subconscious probably "looks at" other things too, but I can't know for sure what they may be or how they're processed to arrive at the "Eureka!" moment.
pj
chgo
I don't use any aiming systems, but I do look at the same things for each shot (CB contact point & where my stick is pointed in relation to it).
I think my subconscious probably "looks at" other things too, but I can't know for sure what they may be or how they're processed to arrive at the "Eureka!" moment.
pj
chgo
A one-step system? If you insist...isnt that a system?
That must be a darn good one.CTE PRO-ONE Every shot
Must be something; edge to edge, whole ball to whole ball. You've got to aim at something. Maybe not a "system" but you have to aim at a ball. You might not even be aware of it like I wasn't either. Do you have a table at home?
my post got misinterpreted by you because of the way it was written
i posted the title of your thread
not asking you that question but
i am curious why do you lou want to know how many aiming systems WE (individually ) know ?
ie whats the purpose of the survey?
Once someone knows the 2-4, and 3-5 rail system, one rails, two rails, etc all become easier. Almost every ball on the table can be hit with these rail systems. I work on these weekly.
To drive you nuts.
Lou Figueroa
Feel is better than a system.
Becaaaaause you have to instantaneously adapt each shot to the specific location of the balls and the condition of the table. Robert Byrnes's "McGoorty The Story of a Billiard Bum"" is one of the great books on billiards. Here's a story from it on Willie Hoppe:
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“In Hoppe’s book on how to play billiards is a long section on the diamond system, charts showing how to count the spots on the rails and figure out where to aim by using arithmetic. Now that is a joke, because he was not a system player. I went out to the Navy Pier one morning during the 1950 tournament to practice and there was Hoppe all alone in the hall. He had the book open and was shooting shots from the diagrams... trying out the system. He looked up at me and said, “You know, Dan, it works. But you need a perfect stroke.’
Those charts were put in the book by Bryon Schoeman and a lot of them are haywire. Sometimes one of my students will show me the book and say, ‘Look at this McGoorty. Hoppe says you can hit the rail here and end up there.’
‘My boy,’ I say, ‘it can’t be done. Those charts are just pretty pictures.’
Not only did Hoppe not use the diamond system, he had nothing to do with developing it. That was done by Copulus, Layton, and Clarence Jackson.
Guys like Hoppe, Cochran, and Schaefer, they knew the table so well, all the angles, all the returns, they didn’t need to use any system. They could get four out of two by elevating the cue a little and putting a touch of masse on the ball. The system? What system? f*ck the system.’”
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Lou Figueroa
You are correct with the masters, they don't need systems. But, someone trying to get better can take the 2-4, 3-5 rail systems by RD and actually learn to make the balls or get a safety as he does, instead of trying to hit the ball. Good practice makes better play. It's all automatic for him. He approaches the table a different way for the 2-4, or the 3-5 rail system. His body knows the angles and aligns to it. Amazing to watch a master's master. I love going to him because I'm convinced he is the best. For me, it's like taking acoustic guitar lessons from Tommy Ernmanuel. How many sports can you go to the best? Try to take a golf lesson from Butch Harmon. You'd better bring $2-3,000 for a morning. Pool might be the only sport where we can afford lessons from the best. None of them are rich.
lou
how do you know that hoppe didnt use his system?
you are mistaken if you dont believe many pro pocket billiard players use systems for kicking
just like many 3 cushion players do to make "bank"shot and other 3 cushion billiards
to say systems are not used by elite players is ridiculous and not true
I wasn't talking about just hitting the ball.
I play 1pocket and you need to be able to kick precisely to get safe, one, two, three, and even four rails. You just practice them until you know how the ball will come off the rails. It's not rocket science.
Lou Figueroa
Pardner, you may as well be trying to get Duckie to admit there IS such a thing as a half-ball hit. You're spinning your wheels.lou
how do you know that hoppe didnt use his system?
you are mistaken if you dont believe many pro pocket billiard players use systems for kicking
just like many 3 cushion players do to make "bank"shot and other 3 cushion billiards
to say systems are not used by elite players is ridiculous and not true