Basically my thoughts exactly. Please let us know the final outcome when resolved. Best Joe
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And again, what kind of pool table are we talking about here, a Sears Best or what.
I have reviewed your comments sir and at best you are condescending. I have no need of such help. Good day
That's ok sir, I had already determined you were someone beyond the need of help!!
I asked you politely once, as to what kind of pool table you have, to which you never responded, why not? Knowing what kind of pool table you have can explain a lot about problems known to certain models of tables, makes it easier to answer your questions.
But to ask questions and then deny all the answers because YOU know best, makes me wonder if at your age, you're not more interested in the attention this thread brings you as opposed to the answers.
I'm done wasting my time on someone who wants answers to YOUR questions, but refuses to answer MY questions in return!
Holy Cow, I'm agreeing with RKC!
Without acknowledging that your carpenter levels are inadequate for this task, and figuring out what to do about it, and disclosing the details of your table - as simple as make and model - you're not going to be able to get any help with this.
Yeah, that guy got all butt-hurt over nothin'. He expect to have his hand held on here?
All I know is that if someone holds back answers to my questions, what kind of help do they expect from me?
I'm not a mechanic, but the mechanics on this forum told me the correct level to buy for my own table. Below is the link.
https://www.amazon.com/Starrett-98-...0002FUO8G/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Before I bought this, I too had nice carpenter's levels, but had a lot of trouble getting my table level enough after I had the carpet under it changed for wood flooring. This level is 10 times as good, and I got the table playin well.
If you are doing all the work on your own table, and using the top of the line Simonis, then why chase your tail with a carpenter's level when its simply not good enough for the job?
When I bought the level 2 years ago from Amazon it was $180. It looks like it went up in price since then...
Good luck to you.
https://www.amazon.com/Starrett-98-...0002FUO8G/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Before I bought this, I too had nice carpenter's levels, but had a lot of trouble getting my table level enough after I had the carpet under it changed for wood flooring. This level is 10 times as good, and I got the table playin well.
If you are doing all the work on your own table, and using the top of the line Simonis, then why chase your tail with a carpenter's level when its simply not good enough for the job?
When I bought the level 2 years ago from Amazon it was $180. It looks like it went up in price since then...
Good luck to you.
A buddy bought one of these. Pretty nice piece for the money. https://www.shars.com/products/measuring/levels/12-master-precisions-level
That's a great reply. I would like to add that one can purchase a perfectly useful precision level that is not a Starrett, one of the Chinese ones, in the under $100 price range. Check eBay.
Thank you. The local pool community is filled with quality people. Its a decent place with decent folks.
If by chance you are referring to me. I'm not Butt hurt. I treat everyone with dignity and respect. I don't treat anyone in a condescending manner and I have absolutely no use for anyone who treats me in such a manner. As for having my hand held. I have been playing this game for over 40 years. I have leveled numerous tables of various brands across this country with Carpenters levels and by simply rolling the ball until it was true and level. I simply asked for input , I had a good idea what may be at fault but wanted others perspectives. Some offered genuine suggestions and others were rude, pretentious and condescending. I have no need of such an interchange, its a waste of time. In the end I asked my friend and recently retired table mechanic and after a long and pleasant conversation he confirmed my suspicions. I am grateful for those who helped and wish everyone a good day.
Namaste,
Billy Bones
Thank you very much.
I appreciate the input.
I will post the outcome as soon as I get time to work on it. Thank you
I appreciate it.
The Shars “Master Precision Level” linked above is the other extreme and might be “too” sensitive. One deviation is .0005” per foot. The Starrett 98 Series I linked is .005” per foot. A carpenter’s level is I’m guessing about 1/64” or .015” per foot.
I was not able to find a knockoff of the Starrett 98 series when I looked 2 years ago.
Btw, the Share master precision is a knockoff of Starretts own Master Precision Level that costs about $1000 new.
I also have the Master Precision knockoff I had bought a decade ago from eBay to set up my machine shop tools. I tried it on the pool table and it was worst than the carpenters levels. It was jumping all over the place and I could not figure it out.
That’s when I came on here and asked the mechanics, and the unanimously said to get the Starret 98 series. The 12” long version of it was the most popular, but I believe some mechanics also had slightly shorter or longer ones.
Ps, realkingcobra was very helpful also in recommending this specific Starrett 98-12 series level
I was not able to find a knockoff of the Starrett 98 series when I looked 2 years ago.
Btw, the Share master precision is a knockoff of Starretts own Master Precision Level that costs about $1000 new.
I also have the Master Precision knockoff I had bought a decade ago from eBay to set up my machine shop tools. I tried it on the pool table and it was worst than the carpenters levels. It was jumping all over the place and I could not figure it out.
That’s when I came on here and asked the mechanics, and the unanimously said to get the Starret 98 series. The 12” long version of it was the most popular, but I believe some mechanics also had slightly shorter or longer ones.
Ps, realkingcobra was very helpful also in recommending this specific Starrett 98-12 series level
Good info. Thanks. I can see where EXTREME accuracy is not really needed. If you were making aircraft part maybe but not leveling a pool table.The Shars “Master Precision Level” linked above is the other extreme and might be “too” sensitive. One deviation is .0005” per foot. The Starrett 98 Series I linked is .005” per foot. A carpenter’s level is I’m guessing about 1/64” or .015” per foot.
I was not able to find a knockoff of the Starrett 98 series when I looked 2 years ago.
Btw, the Share master precision is a knockoff of Starretts own Master Precision Level that costs about $1000 new.
I also have the Master Precision knockoff I had bought a decade ago from eBay to set up my machine shop tools. I tried it on the pool table and it was worst than the carpenters levels. It was jumping all over the place and I could not figure it out.
That’s when I came on here and asked the mechanics, and the unanimously said to get the Starret 98 series. The 12” long version of it was the most popular, but I believe some mechanics also had slightly shorter or longer ones.
Ps, realkingcobra was very helpful also in recommending this specific Starrett 98-12 series level
First, I'm not a table mechanic; but, I am an engineer and metalworking hobbyist. My level is .0005/12", and I use it to set up machines, like my 12x36 toolroom lathe. I Don't think it's too sensitive for leveling a pool table, though I haven't tried. You could probably detect leaning on the table, though! And, on a wood frame construction second floor it might be frustrating.The Shars “Master Precision Level” linked above is the other extreme and might be “too” sensitive. One deviation is .0005” per foot. The Starrett 98 Series I linked is .005” per foot. A carpenter’s level is I’m guessing about 1/64” or .015” per foot.
I was not able to find a knockoff of the Starrett 98 series when I looked 2 years ago.
Btw, the Share master precision is a knockoff of Starretts own Master Precision Level that costs about $1000 new.
I also have the Master Precision knockoff I had bought a decade ago from eBay to set up my machine shop tools. I tried it on the pool table and it was worst than the carpenters levels. It was jumping all over the place and I could not figure it out.
That’s when I came on here and asked the mechanics, and the unanimously said to get the Starret 98 series. The 12” long version of it was the most popular, but I believe some mechanics also had slightly shorter or longer ones.
Ps, realkingcobra was very helpful also in recommending this specific Starrett 98-12 series level
BTW, according to my pretty-good, 24" carpenter's level, my quartz countertops are level; according to my precision level they are not even close!