Lets not blame the wrong things now. If artists stepped away from the pipe we'd have a lot less poetry, not to mention music.More like:
step away from the pipe
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Lets not blame the wrong things now. If artists stepped away from the pipe we'd have a lot less poetry, not to mention music.More like:
step away from the pipe
I have a question as well, how come people are accusing us (ganging up as coward bullies will) just because we would like to see visual proof that the run does exist?
Lets not blame the wrong things now. If artists stepped away from the pipe we'd have a lot less poetry, not to mention music.
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As best I can tell there are a number of questions that keep resurfacing. It seems like much of the disagreement comes from either answering different questions or not understanding which of these answers are opinions versus factually based. Some of these questions are:
1. Did John actually run 626?
2. Assuming the run is confirmed, is John's 626 more impressive than Mosconi's 526?
3. Is John now a better straight pool player than Mosconi was?
4. Is the way records are verified or tracked in pool broken?
5. Assuming the run is confirmed, is John's 626 the new record?
Did John actually run 626? This is kind of an opinion question, "Do we have enough evidence to choose to believe personally?" I believe he did. I don't have proof, but I believe a lot of things without first hand proof. I don't know he did, but I believe he did. While I would like JS to release his video, if he shared it with the BCA and they confirmed the run then I am satisfied. At the same time if someone else is suspicious of his run I can see their point and that is their call. When we are personally persuaded will change from person to person.
Assuming the run is confirmed, is John's 626 more impressive than Mosconi's 526? This is clearly an opinion question. Personally I find both accomplishments amazing in different ways. Mosconi set his run in exhibition play, playing on equipment from the 50's, already the record holder, and just ran balls forever. John showed remarkable tenacity and had the gumption to get back in the ring time and again, striving for a number that seems to anyone else in the world to be far out of reach. Two different accomplishments, both amazing. I don't have to pick a favorite any more than I do with my children, but again this is opinion so if someone picks Mosconi's run as their favorite I can understand that and have no qualms.
Is John now a better straight pool player than Mosconi was? Another opinion question. For me the answer is 'No'. I think most of us agree on this point, including John.
Is the way records are verified or tracked in pool broken? Opinion on how things work. Personally I don't have a strong opinion. I think it's ok but could be taught something if someone disagrees.
Is John's 626 the new record? Fact. Yes. The BCA confirmed the run and 626 is a larger number than 526.
In summary, there is room to see things differently on many points as many of these questions are largely opinion based and up to each of us personally.
To the Schmidt supporters, I don't see what right we have to demand that others are satisfied with the evidence of the run, that they must acknowledge how impressive this feat really was, or that they like the way record attempts are made. It is their right to be skeptical or unimpressed. And to the Mosconi supporters, they don't have the right to tell us that we can't be impressed with a 626 ball run.
One thing that speaks for itself is this is the new record. Like it or hate it the BCA has confirmed the run and this record is now on the books. This is a fact I would hope we can all agree on.
Maybe by paying better attention to which questions people are actually answering and giving each other more leeway to express their own opinions we could get along a little better.
Your so afraid of someone pulling a fast one on you that you refuse to believe anything without first hand knowledge?In one of ur earlier posts u said I really can't understand your doubt when 'people' have seen the video' those people are the bca (powers at be) this bothers me. I see ur clever - but not clever enough. That was a really painfully normal politicly correct diversion, if u believe everything u hear "people" have said they saw as definitive proof - then u are a blossoming idiot. With great power comes great accountability.
As best I can tell there are a number of questions that keep resurfacing. It seems like much of the disagreement comes from either answering different questions or not understanding which of these answers are opinions versus factually based. Some of these questions are:
1. Did John actually run 626?
2. Assuming the run is confirmed, is John's 626 more impressive than Mosconi's 526?
3. Is John now a better straight pool player than Mosconi was?
4. Is the way records are verified or tracked in pool broken?
5. Assuming the run is confirmed, is John's 626 the new record?
Did John actually run 626? This is kind of an opinion question, "Do we have enough evidence to choose to believe personally?" I believe he did. I don't have proof, but I believe a lot of things without first hand proof. I don't know he did, but I believe he did. While I would like JS to release his video, if he shared it with the BCA and they confirmed the run then I am satisfied. At the same time if someone else is suspicious of his run I can see their point and that is their call. When we are personally persuaded will change from person to person.
Assuming the run is confirmed, is John's 626 more impressive than Mosconi's 526? This is clearly an opinion question. Personally I find both accomplishments amazing in different ways. Mosconi set his run in exhibition play, playing on equipment from the 50's, already the record holder, and just ran balls forever. John showed remarkable tenacity and had the gumption to get back in the ring time and again, striving for a number that seems to anyone else in the world to be far out of reach. Two different accomplishments, both amazing. I don't have to pick a favorite any more than I do with my children, but again this is opinion so if someone picks Mosconi's run as their favorite I can understand that and have no qualms.
Is John now a better straight pool player than Mosconi was? Another opinion question. For me the answer is 'No'. I think most of us agree on this point, including John.
Is the way records are verified or tracked in pool broken? Opinion on how things work. Personally I don't have a strong opinion. I think it's ok but could be taught something if someone disagrees.
Is John's 626 the new record? Fact. Yes. The BCA confirmed the run and 626 is a larger number than 526.
In summary, there is room to see things differently on many points as many of these questions are largely opinion based and up to each of us personally.
To the Schmidt supporters, I don't see what right we have to demand that others are satisfied with the evidence of the run, that they must acknowledge how impressive this feat really was, or that they like the way record attempts are made. It is their right to be skeptical or unimpressed. And to the Mosconi supporters, they don't have the right to tell us that we can't be impressed with a 626 ball run.
One thing that speaks for itself is this is the new record. Like it or hate it the BCA has confirmed the run and this record is now on the books. This is a fact I would hope we can all agree on.
Maybe by paying better attention to which questions people are actually answering and giving each other more leeway to express their own opinions we could get along a little better.
this thread has gone batshit crazy.
Time for deletion of this so-called batsh*t thread! Wasn't going anywhere anyway. Main subject went silent months ago.
Danny Harriman is a stooge sent to destroy this thread.
Proof:
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Lol. They all do when they're about the Big One.
I love it though. People are still talking about this thing, the conversational equivalent of insanity. Round and round without change. Trying to figure out the right words and put them in proper order to make a change. Plata o plomo room owner...we want to see what went down.
I really think u float through the sewers rather than riding the skies.
Lol. They all do when they're about the Big One.
I love it though. People are still talking about this thing, the conversational equivalent of insanity. Round and round without change. Trying to figure out the right words and put them in proper order to make a change. Plata o plomo room owner...we want to see what went down.
What you all fail to realize is that this is the beginning of SKYNET!Danny Harriman is a stooge sent to destroy this thread.
Proof:
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Danny Harriman is a stooge sent to destroy this thread.