If the TD was referring to BCAPL Nationals, he was exactly correct. Since it's introduction, the Magic Ball Rack has been accepted equipment at BCAPL Nationals and most CSI events, and a player may not be denied use of it. The only conditions are that its use MUST be announced before the match starts and the opponent must also be allowed to use it.
Buddy
Maybe I just get too twisted about nothing.. I'd like your opinions...
I went to a handicapped 9 ball tournament this weekend, fairly small, only about 23 people. All matches in the tournament were played on 7 foot Diamonds, with the wooden rack, except for one guy, (A fairly decent player) who actually brought a magic rack with him to the tournament.
It came down to he and I playing for the hot seat, and right before we play, he mentions that he brought a magic rack, and I immediately say, "Absolutely not, unless I am forced to play with it. I believe the magic rack equalizes play between nonequal players.."
He asks that we allow the tournament director to decide, and of course the director rules that based on "what they do at national tournaments", that he is allowed to use the magic rack, but must allow me to use it if I wish..
I ended up having little to no interest in the match after that, and two-stroked everything, and ended up losing. I tried a bit harder in the loser's bracket, because I was actually looking forward to the double dip attempt, but ended up coming up short in the match for 2nd/3rd, losing hill-hill.
Looking back, the best thing I could have done was to try to beat the guy in the winner's bracket, and let my stick talk for me. I guess it was just really irritating, because I think the guy can't beat me without the magic rack, as he would need to really hit the rack on the break and accept a more random outcome off the break.
Should I have just outright refused to play with the magic rack, as he is the only guy who brought one, and then just accepted the forfeit necessity as a means of concientious objection?
What do you think of the tournament director's decision?
All in all, I feel that I hve exhibited a lot of self control not to post this same post on Facebook, as a ton of people on my friend's list will know who the guy is. I didn't want it to sound like sour grapes, though, and I am looking forward to getting back in stroke enough to where this sort of tactic won't even matter...
Short Bus Russ
And if I remember right he had to spot you the first break too
Yup 6-0 and Russ had the first break
Maybe I just get too twisted about nothing.. I'd like your opinions...
I went to a handicapped 9 ball tournament this weekend, fairly small, only about 23 people. All matches in the tournament were played on 7 foot Diamonds, with the wooden rack, except for one guy, (A fairly decent player) who actually brought a magic rack with him to the tournament.
It came down to he and I playing for the hot seat, and right before we play, he mentions that he brought a magic rack, and I immediately say, "Absolutely not, unless I am forced to play with it. I believe the magic rack equalizes play between nonequal players.."
He asks that we allow the tournament director to decide, and of course the director rules that based on "what they do at national tournaments", that he is allowed to use the magic rack, but must allow me to use it if I wish..
I ended up having little to no interest in the match after that, and two-stroked everything, and ended up losing. I tried a bit harder in the loser's bracket, because I was actually looking forward to the double dip attempt, but ended up coming up short in the match for 2nd/3rd, losing hill-hill.
Looking back, the best thing I could have done was to try to beat the guy in the winner's bracket, and let my stick talk for me. I guess it was just really irritating, because I think the guy can't beat me without the magic rack, as he would need to really hit the rack on the break and accept a more random outcome off the break.
Should I have just outright refused to play with the magic rack, as he is the only guy who brought one, and then just accepted the forfeit necessity as a means of concientious objection?
What do you think of the tournament director's decision?
All in all, I feel that I hve exhibited a lot of self control not to post this same post on Facebook, as a ton of people on my friend's list will know who the guy is. I didn't want it to sound like sour grapes, though, and I am looking forward to getting back in stroke enough to where this sort of tactic won't even matter...
Short Bus Russ
you'r a f*ckin idiot to not want to use something that equalizes the match
If the TD was referring to BCAPL Nationals, he was exactly correct. Since it's introduction, the Magic Ball Rack has been accepted equipment at BCAPL Nationals and most CSI events, and a player may not be denied use of it. The only conditions are that its use MUST be announced before the match starts and the opponent must also be allowed to use it.
Buddy
Not if you feel you are already the better player.
Just because I have a lower rank than he doesn't mean he's better.
MUCH better players than him refuse to give me any spot while gambling.
Just sayin'.
Thanks,
Russ
2. All 9-Ball and 10-Ball events: The Magic Ball Rack is mandatory. Magic Ball Racks will be provided by the Tournament Desk.
Man, you're livin' in total denial. You got your ass kicked, leave it alone already.
I feel that in this particular case, it got a guy through a field he would not normally have won against.
Why would you care since the magic rack makes it fair for everybody?
................................................Yup, that's right. 6-0. And I beat two players a rank above him 6-0 and 6-3..
I already said I intentionally two stroked everything, and looked the player right in the eye after every missed shot. It was much more about the principal of the matter to me.
A better way to drive home your point would be to beat him.
By the by... You can back him in any non-magic rack game you want. Big table... Small table..
Why exactly can't you beat him with the magic rack?
Hell... snooker table, even.... :grin: I consider myself a well-rounded player, yah know?
I'll even give him a ball in One Pocket, never having even seen him play a game. He certainly likes to practice banks on the small table. Same difference, right.
So, you are better than him in every other aspect of the game, than breaking with the magic rack? I'm not trying to insult you (really!) but I'm trying to understand how you can be a favourite in every game other than rotation pool with a magic rack? If your runout game is as good as his, then you should be able to run out as many racks as him, pocketing the corner ball with the MR. Are you some kind of rack mechanic with the triangle, or are you relying on him to come up dry on his break? Or is your control of the one ball not as good as his? I honestly don't get how fairly equal players can be sepearated that much by a tight rack, that is in fact equal for them both. How can the magic rack translate into such a large advantage, unless the guy is some sort of Corey Deuel/Donnie Mills like super soft breaking, pattern playing savant? In that case you should admit defeat.
You want to be reallll careful about insinuating that he is a better player. The owner of the pool hall where we play had mentioned trying to get us matched up in the past. Me butchering a couple of AAAs in tournaments put an end to that.
Short Bus Russ
FWIW, we flat-out asked Michaela this question at Mosconi. she prefers the MagicRack.
Yup, that's right. 6-0. And I beat two players a rank above him 6-0 and 6-3..
I already said I intentionally two stroked everything, and looked the player right in the eye after every missed shot. It was much more about the principal of the matter to me.
By the by... You can back him in any non-magic rack game you want. Big table... Small table..
Hell... snooker table, even.... :grin: I consider myself a well-rounded player, yah know?
I'll even give him a ball in One Pocket, never having even seen him play a game. He certainly likes to practice banks on the small table. Same difference, right.
You want to be reallll careful about insinuating that he is a better player. The owner of the pool hall where we play had mentioned trying to get us matched up in the past. Me butchering a couple of AAAs in tournaments put an end to that.
Short Bus Russ