Anyone having problem installing Ki-Tech tips. I bought the sample pack from OUTSVILLE, because of the positive reviews. Any way was having the soft installed as I have been playing with a Ultra Skin soft and wanted to compare them. My installer put it on and cut it down to size, took it off the lathe. It was not very smooth and it wobbled like it was coming off. We just assumed it was bad glue, pull it off resanded the bottom of the tip and noticed it sanded deeper on one side as it looked like there was a hard film on the side that did not sand very well. We decided to continue even though the bottom was at on an angle hoping we could correct it with reshaping. So, sanded the ferrel, opened new glue and put it on again. He did a little more clean up and took it out of the lathe. It was sitting on an angle, did some reshaping. It did not look pretty but, we decided to try it out. It played good, accept chalk real well and it stayed on well. I decided I would live with over the weekend. Played 20 or so games at home. Like the hit and chalk retention but it looked bad, so I cut about 1/16 off re shaped it and ended up with about an11mm tip. Better but not pretty. It really plays good just wish it looked better. I have about 60 games on it now and have say like better than any of the other tips I have tried.