I agree if carbon fiber shafts came in larger diameters. They would sell twice as many.
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Value of JossWest with Sideways JW (68 -72)
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I agree if carbon fiber shafts came in larger diameters. They would sell twice as many.
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You seem to be talking about something different. In the case of Scruggs, certain people are authorized to reapply his logo to cues made by him. I think the question was whether anyone is authorized for that by Stroud. Any shaft which is made by another maker should be listed as such.
It is getting tougher and tougher to find full shafts made by those who no longer make cues. I would consider 12.4 still playable on a 40 year old cue. Once it gets to 12mm or less my interest is pretty much gone.
By the sound of this cue, I would think 1,500+. Ivory joint and veneers make up for the fact that it doesn't have inlays.
That is another scam, logoing a unmarked cue for instant profit.
Do you see many 40 and 50 year old shafts that are still 'straight'? Or doesnt that matter to collectors. I
wanted to play with mine so i had new shafts made for my '72 by a different cuemaker who did use original linen phenolic for the rings. I. Like to think its more valuable than 1200.
It was just a passing thought. Such a person would likely be the person to go to for replacement shafts as well as they may have the original specs for taper etc.
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Re-mark. As in for replacement of a butt cap. Not marking an unmarked cue.
That's not a scam. It's a legitimate repair from someone authorized to use a trademark. A maker would only authorize someone he trusted with his mark. That means something.
If a maker is authorized they may also have the original shaft taper info.
Not original, but better than some random maker's idea of what the shaft should be as far as maintaining the cue to as close to original as possible.
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I feel like we aren't even talking to each other. If I send Frey a Scruggs cue which needs a new butt cap, he will replace the butt cap and add Scruggs logo. He won't add the logo to a cue which was unmarked in the first place.
You would be surprised, there are quite a few. What is more surprising is the wide range of opinions of shaft straightness and expectations. You would be shocked at how many people want "laser" straight shafts, original , to a 50 year old cue. They have no idea about what an acceptable tolerance should be. I mean getting straight Szamboti shafts, possible and probable. Getting dead straight Palmer or Paradise shafts to a cue, lucky AF.
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IMO unless you just buy to hold onto shafts are an expendable item. I wouldn't expect too many 40+ yr. old cues to have really nice original shafts. These things were meant to be used,not abused, but played with and enjoyed not just put away to look at.
At the most a letter from an "authorized" maker should suffice for the replaced butt cap. Just how long do you think it will be before the repair is not disclosed and sold as original. Putting a dead cue maker's logo on any cue, for whatever reason, is a scam.
I have four shafts for my 1985 Schon that Bob built and all of them are straight.
3 of the 4 are new unused original shafts and if it was lighter, I’d be still using it.
But at 20.5 ounces, versus mid-18’s of my other cues, it doesn’t get played any more.
I hope the shafts of my other cues remain as the straight as my Runde Schon cue.
3 of the 4 are new unused original shafts and if it was lighter, I’d be still using it.
But at 20.5 ounces, versus mid-18’s of my other cues, it doesn’t get played any more.
I hope the shafts of my other cues remain as the straight as my Runde Schon cue.
Bill Stroud isn't dead.
Properly repairing or restoring a cue by itself isn't a scam.
If it's a former partner or associate, that person may have made those parts originally anyway.
It certainly can be used in a scam or contribute to a scam.
Anyway, the whole matter was only mentioned to find out if someone is able to reproduce Stroud's shaft in case the shafts need replaced or someone wanted to replace them for whatever reason. The notion occurred to me that if someone was authorized to reproduce his logo, they might have his shaft profile too.
I was once told that there is in fact someone with a blanket authorization from Stroud to reproduce his marks for cue repairs. I have asked this question 2 or 3 times here in these forums and nobody has responded so I guess either nobody else heard of it or it isn't true.
It also could be that any people that know would keep it under their hat because of potential controversy as exampled by your response to the mere question.
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REVO comes in 12.9 and GoCustoms will do them all the way to 13mm.
Didn't say Stroud (Scruggs and Frye repairs were mentioned) was dead but he hasn't authorized anyone to apply his logo in repair either, afaik. He posts here, would like to hear his thoughts.
My posted response was specific to Stroud's mark and cues, had nothing to do with any other makers, still does not.
Yes, I know he posts here.
I have posted the question before. He has never chosen to comment.
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