Vernon Elliott once told me, "I Never seen anyone make a dime off of a trick shot". However he's the only man I know that could bank a ball backwards with both ball frozen against the rail and he would bet on that trick but it's not trick. Just a good eye and one heck of a stroke.
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Vernon Elliott once told me, "I Never seen anyone make a dime off of a trick shot". However he's the only man I know that could bank a ball backwards with both ball frozen against the rail and he would bet on that trick but it's not trick. Just a good eye and one heck of a stroke.
Ron Swanson
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They made the course shorter for pool, 7 footers....
Cor, that's great!
How did that die out?
You are the master of inconsistency.
That match ticked all the boxes of what you desire to see in pool:
- Fast play
- Risky, no safety shot-taking (from Fats)
- Larger than life personalities
- Slick presentation (which it was by 1970s standards)
But now you don't "like it" because it drew higher than any snewka match in history.
And it died out because the competitors in question died out. Get it now?
He must have died some time ago, then. Nowaday it seems the only ones making a steady income at pool over time are the top 5 and trick shot artists (Venom, Massey and many others).
What happened to Ye Olde English? Speaking Greek now are we? My, my I do believe Swanson here is either a gown and dog collar wearing member of the Anglican order or at the very least the son of a preacher man! I had to finish three extra years of higher education and waste a shit ton of money to know what that means. Did you do the same Ron or is throwing out Greek just British chic these days?
It's not hoist, it's foist, and you should know. It's old English.
"Foist by his own Petard", is roughly the old saying. A Petard was a breaching device used to blow down heavy wooden doors with gunpowder, back in the day. Foist is an old word meaning "fooled". The man was fooled when his explosive failed to fire. Not unlike many pool players.
I'm surprised PJ didn't catch you on this.
2strong4u
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Getting 4 or 5 Derby City like events annually. Tunica was doomed from the onset due to location. He's trying to get into Atlantic City with Harrah's but they need a guarantee of a tremendous number of hotel night stays to host it. That event would be huge, so many players in the northeast. Once you had that established you could attain real sponsorship and a tour that meant something.
The casino will support anything that proves to fill rooms, restaurants and casino floors. It could be pool or anything else. You just have to show them it can be done.
The casino will support anything that proves to fill rooms, restaurants and casino floors. It could be pool or anything else. You just have to show them it can be done.
All ages pool halls are few and far between, and generally only exist in areas/states that allow consumption of alcohol with minors present. Kids don't have money. They want to, at best, hang out with friends and kill time, not spend money. This is also why malls are dying. The all ages approach can work in some areas but still relies on adults to spend the money, but in areas that segregate the two groups the choice of demographic becomes "teenagers with no/small amounts of money, who are cheap as hell" vs "people out drinking and partying up and not hesitant to drop cash to do so" which is a no brainer.
People always claim this, but the numbers are in: smoking bans tend to kill pool room business. Think of the demographics...how many pool players are smokers themselves? You drive them out, you've killed your biggest demographic. Everyone claimed "well there's lots of non smokers who will start going to pool halls once a smoking ban is passed!" and I saw first hand in AZ what happened....and those mythical stay at home non-smokers never appeared. Customer demographics matter.
So wait, we're supposed to attract young people....to library silent pool rooms? This will never happen. Volume levels are due to people drinking and wanting to relax. That's the people who spend money in pool rooms. Is it annoying for serious pool? Sure. Does it pay the bar's lease and overhead? Absolutely. Pool halls make far more from the bar than they ever do from table time (which most pool players want dirt cheap or free). Ask a room owner or operator sometime. This is common knowledge. The hardcore players don't want the jukebox. The drinking/casual crowd want the jukebox. They also spend the most money. Guess who gets their way?
That's far more a sign of the decline in popularity of pool, than it is some weird thing that just suddenly popped up and killed the game.
This article was definitely written by someone who has never worked at a pool hall.
Actually, it's hyphenated and either spelling is acceptable. Like you, I looked it up. Oh, you also end your statement with a preposition...
I digress...
Schools are turning to teaching "lifetime" sports along with traditional sports. While I wouldn't expect a school to purchase a pool table, just as much as I wouldn't expect them to purchase a bowling alley. They do have bowling units where they travel students to bowl. It could work for pool.
Children have so many options now. More than 10 years ago. The time slice they have for 'free' time is further sliced between so many different things. Face it, cue sports, just isn't that interesting to many young people.
Sad thing is, there would need to be any easy way to declare a tie in pool to make it work for the young.
Ron Swanson
Banned
It's not hoist, it's foist, and you should know. It's old English.
"Foist by his own Petard", is roughly the old saying. A Petard was a breaching device used to blow down heavy wooden doors with gunpowder, back in the day. Foist is an old word meaning "fooled". The man was fooled when his explosive failed to fire. Not unlike many pool players.
I'm surprised PJ didn't catch you on this.
PJ needs to run it past Dr Dave first, but Google and the rest of the world say it's hoist.
Ron Swanson
Banned
Actually, it's hyphenated and either spelling is acceptable. Like you, I looked it up. Oh, you also end your statement with a preposition...
I digress...
Schools are turning to teaching "lifetime" sports along with traditional sports. While I wouldn't expect a school to purchase a pool table, just as much as I wouldn't expect them to purchase a bowling alley. They do have bowling units where they travel students to bowl. It could work for pool.
Children have so many options now. More than 10 years ago. The time slice they have for 'free' time is further sliced between so many different things. Face it, cue sports, just isn't that interesting to many young people.
Sad thing is, there would need to be any easy way to declare a tie in pool to make it work for the young.
The english spelling is the correct one, obviously. Equally obvious is mr chicken's not realising there's a difference. :grin:
Ron Swanson
Banned
Not really, no. I don't get why you pick and choose your stats. (Let's forget ding junhui, shall we?)
When one third of the entire population stay tuned after midnight for a pool match, I'll start to pay attention. You're free to air your own pool matches - do it, see if you can compete with snooker.
Actually, it's hyphenated and either spelling is acceptable. Like you, I looked it up. Oh, you also end your statement with a preposition...
I digress...
Schools are turning to teaching "lifetime" sports along with traditional sports. While I wouldn't expect a school to purchase a pool table, just as much as I wouldn't expect them to purchase a bowling alley. They do have bowling units where they travel students to bowl. It could work for pool.
Children have so many options now. More than 10 years ago. The time slice they have for 'free' time is further sliced between so many different things. Face it, cue sports, just isn't that interesting to many young people.
Sad thing is, there would need to be any easy way to declare a tie in pool to make it work for the young.
In the Texas area, there are several High Schools with Pool as a intramural Sport. Talk to Earl Munson with BEGNF, he can tell you all you need to know Pool in schools.
It's not hoist, it's foist, and you should know. It's old English.
"Foist by his own Petard", is roughly the old saying. A Petard was a breaching device used to blow down heavy wooden doors with gunpowder, back in the day. Foist is an old word meaning "fooled". The man was fooled when his explosive failed to fire. Not unlike many pool players.
I'm surprised PJ didn't catch you on this.
Well played Tramp. However, in my earlier post I was referring to Swanson's use of "hoi polloi". Wonder where he got that one? He doesn't seem to want to respond to me these days so I can only guess. What's your vote? Gown and dog collar? Son of a preacher man? Or British wanna be intellectual elitist who throws shit around without even knowing it's origin?
Well, EP, my good friend, I always look at it this way, sometimes. Back in the dark days of WWII, they asked us for help. Not the other way around. Meaning: Who needs 'em. :smile:
P.S. By-the-way. The Three Stooges had a short called Hoi Polloi, if memory serves.
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Ron Swanson
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God knows. It's all double dutch to me. :sorry: