Tuned shaft ...
- Thread starter WilleeCue
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hahahahaha,,,,,,,,,,,,, what tune....................????
Naaaa... total bullshit
Kim
Is it tuned or toned?
I kinda thought it might be marketing BS as I had never heard any cue maker talking about that before. But ... I am always ready and eager to learn new and better ways of doing things.
So I guess now cue makers need to learn how to lay up carbon fiber to make those kind of shafts ... they seem to be the latest and greatest hot item to improve your game.
More Marketing BS ???????
So I guess now cue makers need to learn how to lay up carbon fiber to make those kind of shafts ... they seem to be the latest and greatest hot item to improve your game.
More Marketing BS ???????
Getting the correct tip that suites that players stroke is where the real tuning is. Some players know what a good tip for them is, with a particular shaft. They will have a different tip for each shaft , as they will feel that combination is the best for them.
Neil
Neil
Tuning a shaft is not as uncommon as some may think. Those who dismiss it have no knowledge of how it is done. It is not the same as toning which is an integral part of shaft selection also.
JC
Coos Cues
Just the latest in a long line of gimmicks to avoid long hours of practice and solid fundamentals.
Reminds me of the weight loss industry.
JC
Most of us probably do the necessary steps without naming the procedure, at least in our own cue shafts.. of course, I'm not arguing just trying to show you that I can be right too.
Mario
From Seyberts' site:
"The custom built Predator Z-3 S-Tuned (Seyberts Tuned Shaft) starts with the popular Predator Z-3 partial shaft. (a finished Predator Z-3 shaft without a joint). The Predator Z-3 partial standard Conical Hybrid taper is then modified by our specialist to that of the popular pro taper. This provides the user a longer taper as available on the Predator 314-3 shafts but with the smaller tip diameter (11.85mm) offered by the Z-3."
"The custom built Predator Z-3 S-Tuned (Seyberts Tuned Shaft) starts with the popular Predator Z-3 partial shaft. (a finished Predator Z-3 shaft without a joint). The Predator Z-3 partial standard Conical Hybrid taper is then modified by our specialist to that of the popular pro taper. This provides the user a longer taper as available on the Predator 314-3 shafts but with the smaller tip diameter (11.85mm) offered by the Z-3."
Most of us probably do the necessary steps without naming the procedure, at least in our own cue shafts.. of course, I'm not arguing just trying to show you that I can be right too.
Mario
I don't believe there to be any right or wrong shaft tuning method. I just wanted express the fact that there are machines(fixtures) that are used for tuning individual shafts for cues.
Is it necessary......maybe not, but some must think it is or they wouldn't be doing so.
Then again, some think threads at the A joint on a short splice cue build aren't necessary either.
Dave, back to my original question ... would you be willing to share what tuning a shaft is and how it is done?
From what I have seen posted so far if you touch a piece of sandpaper to the shaft it is tuning it.
I understand reconditioning a shaft, modifying a shaft, also re-tapering a shaft, is all that now considered tuning?
I am I wrong to think tuning is a process of changing or adjusting something to achieve a certain level of a measurable standard of performance.
How would you measure the performance of a cue shaft
other than someone saying "I like it like that".
I do remember Meucci having a stroke fixture that could measure deflection.
Placing a dot on the shaft to mark the spline is something I would consider as tuning as that has a measurable effect on cue ball travel.
Perhaps it is one of those things covered by the "magic" of a pool cue.
Speaking of which I am all out of perfect stroke powder and can not find any anywhere ...
From what I have seen posted so far if you touch a piece of sandpaper to the shaft it is tuning it.
I understand reconditioning a shaft, modifying a shaft, also re-tapering a shaft, is all that now considered tuning?
I am I wrong to think tuning is a process of changing or adjusting something to achieve a certain level of a measurable standard of performance.
How would you measure the performance of a cue shaft
other than someone saying "I like it like that".
I do remember Meucci having a stroke fixture that could measure deflection.
Placing a dot on the shaft to mark the spline is something I would consider as tuning as that has a measurable effect on cue ball travel.
Perhaps it is one of those things covered by the "magic" of a pool cue.
Speaking of which I am all out of perfect stroke powder and can not find any anywhere ...
You guys aren’t thinking of tuning in the correct manner. Think of cars, and the data management for proper ignition and running. I can change the tune for a car and get different performance. The same as changing a shafts taper/ferrule/bored. Except for cues it’s a one way operation.
I tune my shafts at the James B Lansing speaker studio here.
Joey~Getting over a nast flu~
Joey~Getting over a nast flu~
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Yes ... but with cars and such the change is measurable and plainly obvious.
With a cue shaft hit and feel is all subjective to the players interpretation.
When you tune a cue shaft what is it that you are adjusting and how is the result measured?
Here is an example:
Chuck up your cue butt in a lathe, attach the shaft, and spin it slowly.
Does the tip stay in one spot or wobble around.
That wobble can be "tuned" out if you know how to do it.
Is that what is being called tuning?
No that’s not tuning. That’s just trying to be a nit. Isn’t it kind of personal preference for cars too? I don’t like Ford Mustangs at all, does that make them trash? Just like how Seybert’s does their tuning. It’s personal preference of whether or not you like that tune. It’s all about finding your sweet spot. If there’s enough meat to the shaft, any maker or repair man can tune a shaft if they know what’s going on.
So is retapering another word for tuning or part of tuning?.
