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09-15-2019, 05:27 PM

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So you didn't answer my question either
How many deaths of blacks in Africa, and America, have been caused by other blacks? See how easy that was? Don't care what color you are...just don't be an a$$hole. Seems simple enough.


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09-15-2019, 05:34 PM

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Both the English Civil war and the US Civil War were nightmares. We would be prescient to not engage in a modern civil war.
That might eventually wind-up being impossible OV. When you consider that the idea of white supremacy/racism is being crammed into the domestic conversation at every turn by the LEFT. They are fueling yet another fire, based on a bogus narrative. A foolish, and dangerous game IMO.


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09-15-2019, 05:40 PM

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A democracy was never designed to settle fundamental differences between a population. We were always until fairly recently a people who agreed on most of the basics and the ballot box was used to decide smaller differences. We had common ground. No more.

This vast geography called America has twice as many people as before. With the rural and urban populations separated by a few more generations. To the point they no longer can relate to one another on much of anything. Colleges have taken over the culture on the coasts with secular indoctrination.

The ballot box has become not a place where differences are settled but where they are solidified. Especially in narrow elections which most of ours are. The losing side has increasingly no incentive to accept the results as the results go increasingly against virtually everything they believe in.

This is why when Trump is re elected there will be a shit storm the likes of hasn't been seen since 1860. Personally I believe it's time to divide this continent up amicably and let these two populations live their own way in peace before it's too late. Each of us can make a choice. Of course that won't/can't happen. No it's going to have to be settled the good old fashioned human way. The shooting will start and to the victors will go the spoils.
too few people have too many resources.. and they are flaunting their cake....

history shows when the economic balance benefits to few the situation will rectify one way or the other..

capitalism is broken... all the spokes on the wheel have downsides when taken to far...

our spokes are farther apart than they have ever been in this country.. we need to come back to the axle.. the shit that really matters

With a centrist point of view that parts of capitalism are good but must be reigned in or it turns into fascist oligarchy..

socialism in and of itself does a great good but when taken to far turns into tyrannical dictators...

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09-15-2019, 05:57 PM

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How many deaths of blacks in Africa, and America, have been caused by other blacks? See how easy that was? Don't care what color you are...just don't be an a$$hole. Seems simple enough.
All you did was answer a question with a question and one that isn't even apple to apples....simple enough


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09-15-2019, 06:08 PM

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Personally I believe it's time to divide this continent up amicably and let these two populations live their own way in peace before it's too late. Each of us can make a choice. Of course that won't/can't happen. No it's going to have to be settled the good old fashioned human way. The shooting will start and to the victors will go the spoils.
Agree. Give the left California, the states north of it, New York, and the states above it. They can practice socialism, nobody works if they don't want to, everyone lives off the state, and is controlled by that state.

The right will have the rest. That's where people work for a living, do not shit in the street, and enjoy sports, rather than protest and smashing windows.

The left would not have a lot of time. No production, and all windows would be smashed in a short amount of time.

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09-15-2019, 06:48 PM

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All you did was answer a question with a question and one that isn't even apple to apples....simple enough
Never is "apples to apples" when it doesn't fit the race baiters narrative.


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Never is "apples to apples" when it doesn't fit the race baiters narrative.
Maybe you should start at the beginning of this thread and see who interjected race and racism into the conversation....once again, simple really....wasn't me but I have every right to reply to it just as you do.
And btw j2, for you to call the violence and deaths attributed to the White Supremacy movement "a bogus narrative" takes some serious tunnel vision that filters out today's reality.
Maybe one of you on the Right will step up to the plate and deliver an answer that actually addresses my question:
How many deaths in the USA in the past 50 years can be attributed to ANTIFA and how many to the various White Supremacy groups "killin' in the name of"?


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09-15-2019, 07:31 PM

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Maybe you should start at the beginning of this thread and see who interjected race and racism into the conversation....once again, simple really....wasn't me but I have every right to reply to it just as you do.
And btw j2, for you to call the violence and deaths attributed to the White Supremacy movement "a bogus narrative" takes some serious tunnel vision that filters out today's reality.
Maybe one of you on the Right will step up to the plate and deliver an answer that actually addresses my question:
How many deaths in the USA in the past 50 years can be attributed to ANTIFA and how many to the various White Supremacy groups "killin' in the name of"?
I am talking about the narrative being pushed that TODAY in the U.S., racism is the problem most affecting minorities. That is simply ridiculous, and false.


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I am talking about the narrative being pushed that TODAY in the U.S., racism is the problem most affecting minorities. That is simply ridiculous, and false.
ok...I don't disagree with your opinion. It's complex and racism does play a role. Depending on the situation and the people involved, it can play the most significant role but yes, it can and is used as an excuse far too often.
My conversation is an ongoing one with Alan (beyond this thread) and had pretty much nothing to do with that point.
Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part


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too few people have too many resources.. and they are flaunting their cake....

history shows when the economic balance benefits to few the situation will rectify one way or the other..

capitalism is broken... all the spokes on the wheel have downsides when taken to far...

our spokes are farther apart than they have ever been in this country.. we need to come back to the axle.. the shit that really matters

With a centrist point of view that parts of capitalism are good but must be reigned in or it turns into fascist oligarchy..

socialism in and of itself does a great good but when taken to far turns into tyrannical dictators...

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ok...I don't disagree with your opinion. It's complex and racism does play a role. Depending on the situation and the people involved, it can play the most significant role but yes, it can and is used as an excuse far too often.
My conversation is an ongoing one with Alan (beyond this thread) and had pretty much nothing to do with that point.
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Maybe you should start at the beginning of this thread and see who interjected race and racism into the conversation....once again, simple really....wasn't me but I have every right to reply to it just as you do.
And btw j2, for you to call the violence and deaths attributed to the White Supremacy movement "a bogus narrative" takes some serious tunnel vision that filters out today's reality.
Maybe one of you on the Right will step up to the plate and deliver an answer that actually addresses my question:
How many deaths in the USA in the past 50 years can be attributed to ANTIFA and how many to the various White Supremacy groups "killin' in the name of"?
How about the last 10 years? Who did the white supremacists kill? Way less than ladder accidents. In fact ladder fatalities are 10 times the annual number of acknowledged WS killings. While no one life lost isn't tragic statistically WS murders are for all practical purposes ZERO. That's right, not even on the scale. It's not an epidemic and it's not really even a problem. That's the truth. But we have to keep that boogie man alive before black folk decide to vote for the ones truly making their lives better. And it's not the D's.

It is a bogus narrative closely related to some others. Like orange man bad for instance.

Bogus narratives have made the left a visible joke the last few years. Lying for the purpose of power.


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too few people have too many resources.. and they are flaunting their cake....

history shows when the economic balance benefits to few the situation will rectify one way or the other..

capitalism is broken... all the spokes on the wheel have downsides when taken to far...

our spokes are farther apart than they have ever been in this country.. we need to come back to the axle.. the shit that really matters

With a centrist point of view that parts of capitalism are good but must be reigned in or it turns into fascist oligarchy..

socialism in and of itself does a great good but when taken to far turns into tyrannical dictators...

Balance Matters.....
You're so ignorant (but you're no alone...so there is that) it would be comical if not so sad. How did we fall so far and get to the point where any sane adult can actually think this way? It's embarrassing. Lol - socialism in and of itself does a great good...there's so much stupid in that statement. But it is enlightening about how repeated bullshit leftist propaganda can affect weak minds though. Why do you think people around the world have been fighting to come here for what seems forever - it sure as hell ain't for the socialism...and that many of these people come from socialist countries should be an obvious hint.

And as Overlord mentioned, ever been to a third world country? Those people would laugh in your face and point at you talking among themselves calling you crazy among many other things if they heard this kind of bullshit. They would think you're nuts. You and others who think like you live in the best country in the best time in history with the world at your fingertips and you're so fugging clueless that you can't see it...truly fugging amazing.

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How about the last 10 years? Who did the white supremacists kill? Way less than ladder accidents. In fact ladder fatalities are 10 times the annual number of acknowledged WS killings. While no one life lost isn't tragic statistically WS murders are for all practical purposes ZERO. That's right, not even on the scale. It's not an epidemic and it's not really even a problem. That's the truth. But we have to keep that boogie man alive before black folk decide to vote for the ones truly making their lives better. And it's not the D's.

It is a bogus narrative closely related to some others. Like orange man bad for instance.

Bogus narratives have made the left a visible joke the last few years. Lying for the purpose of power.
I wonder if the surviving family members think their loved ones who died at the hands of racists murderers look at those victims as a zero?


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