Can a Revo shaft be plugged and tapped???

HawaiianEye

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I played with one for a little bit on Sunday and, from the looks of it, I'm not sure the average cue maker would even want to change the tip on one.
 

Kim Bye

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Eventually, maybe, but I think Predator are going to use the exclusivety for all they can...
 

pfd studios

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REVO - Carbon Fiber Predator Shaft

I played with one for a little bit on Sunday and, from the looks of it, I'm not sure the average cue maker would even want to change the tip on one.

The questions asked were . . . "Can a Revo shaft be plugged and tapped???"

(1) To 3/8X11 in this particular example?
(2) Can ring work be added?
(3) Do you think partials will be sold?

YOU ANSWERED NONE OF THE QUESTIONS . . . but preceded to go off on a tangent . . . perhaps YOUR changing a tip would be a bit of a challenge.

The answers are:

(1) Removing the Uni-Loc insert, plugging and taping for 3/8 X 11 could be done - NOT recommended - too many variables and outcome questionable.
(2) "Anything" is possible - but again, clearly NOT recommended - way too many variables and the cost of a mistake out weighs any benefit . . . would NOT do it !!
(3) NO - I sincerely doubt that ANY partials will be offered - for just the reasons stated in responses above.

Paul
 

pfd studios

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Joey, one of these days you will actually contribute something "on point" that is meaningful . . .the color of the shaft has nothing to do with this post - and yes, everyone already knows that carbon fiber cores have already been done . . . so move on . . . it really isn't necessary for you to "comment" on every post - unless you DO have something positive and meaningful to contribute. If you want to author your opinion on maple versus carbon fiber then start your own post.

pfd
 

Kim Bye

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Once Revo shafts more available and I get to see one up close, I think I can make a more qualified guess as to how the shaft is constructed.
From just looking at the pictures, I'm not even sure if I would change a tip on that shaft...
 

conetip

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Yes a revo shaft can have their existing insert and another replaced. Not for people who do not have access to the specialised glues for bonding to the composite they are using.
It would void any original shaft warranty as well.
Ring work can be added to one I am sure, but it will not be easy to get the nice transition from the shafts finish to the decor ring work.
It is not something I would do to an existing Revo shaft. That outer skin looks to be fairly thin to me. You never know how that material is going to be when cut through.
On the end like where they have their pad on the end face, I suspect that is end ground to get that sharp clean edge before the pad is applied.
Neil
 

Cocoa

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Once Revo shafts more available and I get to see one up close, I think I can make a more qualified guess as to how the shaft is constructed.
From just looking at the pictures, I'm not even sure if I would change a tip on that shaft...

Kim,

Are you saying Predator made a shaft and only the very best in the industry can change the tip?

Seyberts does it with ease, they offer over 50 different tips when ordering a P-3 Revo. Without an up charge, they must be awesome!

So your saying if you had a Revo your smart enough to figure out how its constructed but couldn't figure out how to change the tip? Really?

I'm am sure I would not want you changing tips on my house cues!

For that matter anyone who can't figure out how to change a tip should be in a different business!

Cocoa
 

Kim Bye

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Kim,

Are you saying Predator made a shaft and only the very best in the industry can change the tip?

Seyberts does it with ease, they offer over 50 different tips when ordering a P-3 Revo. Without an up charge, they must be awesome!

So your saying if you had a Revo your smart enough to figure out how its constructed but couldn't figure out how to change the tip? Really?

I'm am sure I would not want you changing tips on my house cues!

For that matter anyone who can't figure out how to change a tip should be in a different business!

Cocoa
No I'm just saying I would like to see the shaft up close first. Just like any repair job really, always best to see the product up close before decieding to take on the job.
 
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HawaiianEye

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The questions asked were . . . "Can a Revo shaft be plugged and tapped???"

(1) To 3/8X11 in this particular example?
(2) Can ring work be added?
(3) Do you think partials will be sold?

YOU ANSWERED NONE OF THE QUESTIONS . . . but preceded to go off on a tangent . . . perhaps YOUR changing a tip would be a bit of a challenge.

The answers are:

(1) Removing the Uni-Loc insert, plugging and taping for 3/8 X 11 could be done - NOT recommended - too many variables and outcome questionable.
(2) "Anything" is possible - but again, clearly NOT recommended - way too many variables and the cost of a mistake out weighs any benefit . . . would NOT do it !!
(3) NO - I sincerely doubt that ANY partials will be offered - for just the reasons stated in responses above.

Paul

My point was that the average cuemaker may find it difficult or impossible, due to the construction of the cue and the Predator policy that your warranty (whatever that is) is voided if you mess with it. Your warranty is voided if you damage the "silencer" pad on the tip. If they don't trust anybody to do that, do you think they'll trust someone (besides themselves) to plug the joint and rebuild it with something else?

If you can't read between the lines, I'll see if I can adjust the text here to "close it up a bit tighter" where you can read it.
 
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pfd studios

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My point was that the average cuemaker may find it difficult or impossible, due to the construction of the cue and the Predator policy that your warranty (whatever that is) is voided if you mess with it. Your warranty is voided if you damage the "silencer" pad on the tip. If they don't trust anybody to do that, do you think they'll trust someone (besides themselves) to plug the joint and rebuild it with something else?

If you can't read between the lines, I'll see if I can adjust the text here to "close it up a bit tighter" where you can read it.

Perhaps YOU missed my post on how best to avoid the "tip replacement warranty" issue - I suggest that you find it and refer to that . . . it CLEARLY provides the necessary information on how to do it and NOT have a problem.

My observations in response to the questions originally asked are on point.

pfd
 

conetip

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Since replacing tips is also discussed, does Predator use epoxy for the initial tip install ?
The few videos I have seen from them mention about cleaning up the epoxy off the ferrule
or off the tip pads.
I have not replaced a Predator tip where I am the 1st repair person to replace it's tip.
Neil
 

pickngrin

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Another possibility is a crosspin extension which will accept your 3/8 x 11 pin and will have a Uniloc pin to plug into the Revo shaft. These neat devices are made by Newsherrifintwn and have been getting great reviews.
 
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