USPS Horror Story Advice?

slyfox

Olney Fan
Silver Member
Hello All,

I just had a great transaction selling a pool cue and USPS absolutely destroyed the cue. I had the cue insured, luckily.

ANY pointers on what to do or what not to do would be much appreciated. I am refunding the money to the buyer in the morning. Luckily, he was understanding of the situation.

I am filling out a claim online with the postal service currently, but any advice is appreciated.

Always insure what you ship.

I will NEVER trust USPS again. :angry:

Cue and "extension" below... Were they playing baseball with the cue I mailed?
 

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victorl

Where'd my stroke go?
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That's like my worst nightmare... it looks like it's been run over by a truck, several times over.
 

Buckzapper

AzB Silver Member
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You will have to prove with a receipt, how much you paid for it. Be prepared to take a real screwing on this deal. USPS is absolutely the worst. Keep us posted on how it all turns out, and good luck.
 
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PINKLADY

ICNBB
Silver Member
You will have to prove with a receipt, how much you paid for it. Be prepared to take a real screwing on this deal. USPS is absolutely the worst. Keep us posted on how it all turns out, and good luck.

yep.
that has to be one of THE WORST CLAIMS i've ever seen. they CAN'T deny it - but they will. save the CARTONING, for pics (hopefullly it shows treadmarks). as for proof of value - you know people in the business & can get any receipt you want.... and you'll need an inflated value, cause USPS will want to settle. remember the Proof Of Delivery is VERY important if they simply left it at the door; if your customer signed "in good condition"; your screwed.

stay on your claim w/ them & document everything! if you wait too long it's null & void.

good luck.
 

ROB.M

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Hello All,

I just had a great transaction selling a pool cue and USPS absolutely destroyed the cue. I had the cue insured, luckily.

ANY pointers on what to do or what not to do would be much appreciated. I am refunding the money to the buyer in the morning. Luckily, he was understanding of the situation.

I am filling out a claim online with the postal service currently, but any advice is appreciated.

Always insure what you ship.

I will NEVER trust USPS again. :angry:

Cue and "extension" below... Were they playing baseball with the cue I mailed?
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How was it packaged? Only bubble wrapped?
I'd like to see the packaging it was in.


Rob.M
 

worktheknight

AzB Silver Member
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I have been lucky, but, I also go to great lengths in packaging cues I ship. With the looks of your cue, not sure if anything could have saved the torture your package went through. However, I put the cues I ship in a plastic cue sleeve, wrap tightly, then surround that with protective foam sheeting, then put that in a kraft tube. The kraft tube is then placed in a usps 5x5x5 medium shipping box that is also packaged. It is time consuming and you have extra costs in the kraft tube(s) and tape, but, have on a few occasions received photo's of the outside shipping usps container (free from usps) but, the inner kraft tube was enough to save the cue. I have seen many people, even cue makers use containers (used) that are already weak and the cues just wrapped in bubble wrapping and I am amazed the cues were still inside. as the ends or holes have erupted in the outer shipping container. I have always viewed that when I have sold a cue, it is not my property anymore and treat a buyer as what he is, the new owner of the cue. I also do not suggest to just ship a container with tape over the end caps as I have received tubes with the tape of the end caps cut and the cues removed receiving a empty tube. Tubes should always go inside a box as the insured value is on the shipping label and I am sure the few bad folks working for a shipping company is looking at the value on the sticker. Tubes are very easy to get into by simply cutting the ends and taking out the merchandise. Another Azer and myself are going through this very thing with ups as the tube ends were cut. Thankfully, my ups driver was joking with my office staff of delivery such a big tube for a poster. She didn't see the sticker said 5 lbs as about two minutes after she dropped it off, I picked up the tube and said OH OH this tube is empty and notified the ups center as the ups driver confirmed she delivered a light weight tube. Sad, two old cues are now missing and I am sure the ups investigation will come up empty as I sent plenty of photo's showing the tape cut. Please just don't send a tube, put the tube inside a free usps shipping container. At least if the container is also taped shut, the thief's have more work to do.
Good Luck, but, again, don't know if it would have helped save your cue anyways.
 

cueaddicts

AzB Gold Member
Silver Member
Sorry you have to go through this. The shipping is really jacked up this time of the year. Advice to all....if you are not using a PVC tube to line your shipping box, you are rolling the dice, regardless of who your shipping company is. This has been discussed here ad nauseam before. It is merely $4 in extra cost. Cheap insurance that you can factor into your price or shipping cost.
 
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Quesports

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Hey slyfox, Please keep us informed as to the USPS dispute / insurance process. It undoubtedly will be of interest, wish you all the best.
 

CocoboloCowboy

Cowboys are my hero's
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File you claim with USPS, have proper proof of value, and followup, and the should PAY FAST.

Persnally I would rather deal with the Post Office over Federal Express, or UPS, who never seem to be at fault.
 

hang-the-9

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I've always shipped cues the few times I sold them in a hard tube, and that's how I got them when I bought. Either a plastic pipe or a thick cardboard tube.

Looks like this one was just wrapped in bubble wrap from the pics.
 

CueTip

Registered
I always use pvc or a little thinner type of plastic tube to ship cues in. It;s really cheap to bye at Home Depot, Lowes or a plummers supply store! It's the best way!
 

DD Custom Cues

Cues by Drew
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I always ship in pvc and cut wood round to slide into the ends and screw the wood ends into the pvc.

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slyfox

Olney Fan
Silver Member
additional pic of "box" left over

Small update. Claim was filed. The lady at USPS said it looks pretty clear to her that it's a legit claim. I about laughed in anger but anyway.

She said it would take 6-8 weeks for the whole process. A letter would be mailed out to sender and addressee within a week asking for the package to be brought to USPS for inspection.

Cue was shipped in a triangle priority box. The ones they made over 2 years back that I've never had issues with. Plastic sleeve, 3 layers of sturdy bubble wrap, taped tight. The box normally looks more plastic than box when I get done with it.

I've shipped around 40-50 cues mainly through buyers here on AZ and never had an issue. My thought is if I package it well enough to fall off a truck at 70 miles and hour (which i have tested with a cheaper cue) and not hurt the cue then it should be reasonable. Lesson learned. Plan for a gorilla to play baseball with it and you might be good.

The fact that bogles my mind, shipped in box, taped as tightly and securely as possible. Delivered destroyed and only in a small cut out of the box remains.

Someone literally took a razor knife, cut out part of the box that had the shipping label on it and taped it all up around the cue and sent it on it's way.

As far as the refund is concerned, I already refunded the money via paypal. Some may call this dumb, and not knocking anyone for it, but it's more important to me that someone who paid for something get what their money went toward getting.
This might hurt me in the long run, but I would rather take the hit than feel like I cheated someone out of money when all they really wanted was a nice playing cue.

The other thing that the guy that brought the cue brought up.... USPS measures the box when the accept it. That might be a little bit of help too. Hopefully.


I'll keep everyone updated on how it plays out... hopefully I won't get a sore throat from yelling at anyone too much.

Thanks for all the support and advice.
 

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poolguy4u

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:scratchhead:



Hmmm...did you ship that package to Texas?

Around five years ago I shipped a cue to Texas and it

has the same dents as your cue.


I thought for sure the buyer had to do it----figuring it was buyer remorse.

The buyer said he got it that way but I never believed him.



.
 

Bavafongoul

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
For The Added Cost.....

I always ship my cues thru USPS and the cues are shipped overnight (24hrs) with next day delivery (Mon - Sat). This costs under $50 for coast to coast delivery with $2500 insurance, signed receipt and next day delivery prior to noontime at the recipient's address.

In order for any package to move that fast through any carrier's system, it receives special attention and very quick handling for the item to go from my doorstep in Fresno, CA to a recipient anywhere on the eastern seaboard that has a functioning local Post Office. Nothing moves that fast without extra attention to ensure its arrival within the stipulated deadline.

Now to not admit that anything can happen to any package at any time using any carrier is just being foolhardy, argumentative, or both. And the damage to the package and the cue in the photos is ghastly....ugh.....not to much to say 'bout that one.....really bad.

All I'm saying is I've shipped almost 2 dozen cartons containing cues thru USPS and every time was via overnight delivery. Each cue arrived within 24 hrs, the very next day, or at least delivery was attempted & subsequently completed the following day due to unavailability of the recipient.

I am confident that when you have a carton, box, etc. processed through the various handling points & depots in a carrier's network because of next day delivery, you vastly minimize the opportunity for incidents like the one under discussion.
 
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James2003

AzB Silver Member
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IMO pay the seller extra to go to lowes or Home Depot and but come 4-5" pvc with end caps.
Sure it looks like your shipping a 35" bomb but the cue will be much safer.
If course wrap butt and shafts in bubble wrap.

Using just a plain box and bubble wrap to ship high end cues is crazy
 
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