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I think it's a little tough to argue what lathe or lathes are best b/c we don't know what the other makers' processes are .
Ernie G. has multiple metal lathes. He said each one is a dedicated machine.
Hell, his ring cutter alone is worth thousands.https://youtu.be/zpl9ANYjjWE?t=576
Collet chuck, variable speed and all. Just sick.


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That was the business model for more than a few top cue makers, set up and ran like a machine shop, which it was. They may have had employees running those machines too. If you were trying to sell overseas you had better have the shop to fill an order.
  
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That was the business model for more than a few top cue makers, set up and ran like a machine shop, which it was. They may have had employees running those machines too. If you were trying to sell overseas you had better have the shop to fill an order.
Even without workers running those other machines, it is just more efficient AND more accurate to have dedicated machines.


  
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Even without workers running those other machines, it is just more efficient AND more accurate to have dedicated machines.
Regardless of specific machine choice, having dedicated machines/jigs makes all the difference.


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Regardless of specific machine choice, having dedicated machines/jigs makes all the difference.
Your right about that, but the entry cost is high enough as it is. You got to start with one good piece of equipment and take it from there



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If it helps swing you toward a Deluxe Cue Smith the new model with 3/4 HP motor can do live threading under power instead of having to hand turn it, provided you get the thread milling option. The motor will also slow down slow enough to put Cue Cote Epoxy Finish on without an extra gear motor.
  
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If it helps swing you toward a Deluxe Cue Smith the new model with 3/4 HP motor can do live threading under power instead of having to hand turn it, provided you get the thread milling option. The motor will also slow down slow enough to put Cue Cote Epoxy Finish on without an extra gear motor.
Well I went and pulled the trigger on this... Enco 111-3320. Spindle bore 1.5 inches. 40 inches between centers an 35 inches from jaws on chuck to point of drill chuck when fully extended. Does metric and standard threads from 4 to 112 pi. It was a canabalization machine in a machine shop. 3 phase motor replaced by a single phase.

So my question is what is the cheapest way to move a 1650lb lathe?

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06-30-2017, 07:26 PM

Johnny, I have moved many lathes in the bed of a 3/4ton pick up.

Nice lathe by the way.

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Is the 3phase motor still available so VFD can be used?
Rent a liftgate truck may be the easiest way with a pallet lift to move it to the truck.
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3 phase is gone. Beggars cannot be choosers. Doesn't mean I can't get one later. I will call around for a lift gate truck today. Thanks guys.

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Johnny, I have moved many lathes in the bed of a 3/4ton pick up.

Nice lathe by the way.

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07-01-2017, 04:49 AM

IF you have a truck, here is another option.

Remove the tailstock and chuck. Then remove either 4 or 6 bolts and the bench is separated from the lathe. Back your truck right up to it with a couple guys and slide it right off the bench into the truck bed, the bench will be easier to put in but it may still weigh a few hundred pounds.

There are many lifts you can rent from a tool rental yard as well, you will be fine moving it.

Once you get it where you want it, do yourself a favor and leave it away from the wall enough to get behind it. Do this so you can keep it clean behind it and so you can get to the wiring, with the chord they used, you will be replacing your start capacitor real soon. Use a better chord and never plug it into a small strip like they used.

Use a machinist level to set it up and then use a dial indicator to check all points that need to be perfect in their runouts. (Go to youtube and type in "indicating a dedicated Pool Cue lathe" too see some of the basics.)

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IF you have a truck, here is another option.

Remove the tailstock and chuck. Then remove either 4 or 6 bolts and the bench is separated from the lathe. Back your truck right up to it with a couple guys and slide it right off the bench into the truck bed, the bench will be easier to put in but it may still weigh a few hundred pounds.

There are many lifts you can rent from a tool rental yard as well, you will be fine moving it.

Once you get it where you want it, do yourself a favor and leave it away from the wall enough to get behind it. Do this so you can keep it clean behind it and so you can get to the wiring, with the chord they used, you will be replacing your start capacitor real soon. Use a better chord and never plug it into a small strip like they used.

Use a machinist level to set it up and then use a dial indicator to check all points that need to be perfect in their runouts. (Go to youtube and type in "indicating a dedicated Pool Cue lathe" too see some of the basics.)

Hope this helps, Thanks, Dave.
Thanks for the great info! Been doing research all morning. You would be surprised how many companies don't do this kind of thing

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Every place I have bought a lathe from had some way of loading it into a pickup. Cherry picker and some imagination can unload it.

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