One Pocket: Filler vs Shuff
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This would be a good tester for Filler.
I'd rather see this than him play 8ball against Bergman
Anything over race to 21 is too much with Bregman(slow pace).
Maybe Warren Kiamco lucked out getting sick. They did play some at Vegas and ended up even.
I watched a good bit of filler/ 1p and...
There are definitely som subtleties he has not developed, like sub-optimal speed into the stack. He often hits the stack too hard, resulting in balls creeping out, vs. sticking whitey.
He also isn't as good at leaving balls he shoots toward his hole in optimal position. The obs are often left on end rail, where they are no threat if opponent responds with up-table leave. Frost is the best I have seen with this, leaving ob in the arc in front of his hole.
Dude is a monster though. If he becomes proficient in a few more minor aspects, look out (pool) world.
There are definitely som subtleties he has not developed, like sub-optimal speed into the stack. He often hits the stack too hard, resulting in balls creeping out, vs. sticking whitey.
He also isn't as good at leaving balls he shoots toward his hole in optimal position. The obs are often left on end rail, where they are no threat if opponent responds with up-table leave. Frost is the best I have seen with this, leaving ob in the arc in front of his hole.
Dude is a monster though. If he becomes proficient in a few more minor aspects, look out (pool) world.
Tom can still play some great 1P. Great book and video’s for sure
Roberto has played is several of Buffalo’s 1P events, he’s getting better at 1P. His win over Josh Roberts is proof he’s improving
I don't think Filler is even close to ready for a matchup with the two time Derby City One-Pocket champion. He'll need to build his way up to this level of competition. Give him at least a couple of years.
i think evan lunda or danny smith would be a more suitable opponent
Filler’s gonna take on T-Rex this week, it seems. One hole race to 21 over two nights. They’re playing even.
Roy’s Basement will have the free stream.
Roy’s Basement will have the free stream.
Nice! I like Filler to take it down.
Now you're talking. This is a real test for Filler. I'm not sure this is the best "move" for him right now. If he beats T-Rex, he loses a lot of games that he could have made money on (Thorpe, Hall, Deuel, Frost, Smith, Lunda, Compton, Roberts, etc.). Only a couple of guys left for him to play (Alex, Dennis, maybe Shane).
It's a loonng way from October to May, six months in fact. My take on Filler is that he is a serious student of the game and he is ready to learn all he can about any new pool game where he can make money, and what better game then One Pocket to do just that. He kind of reminds me of Harold Worst and Efren. Both of them picked up the game rather quickly (in less than a year they went from average to great!).
It's too late now but I was fully prepared to bet on Filler if he played one of the lesser One Pocket champs (mentioned above). He needs a better manager to steer him into the best games first before taking on the Godzillas of One Pocket. My feeling is that he is simply a better pool player than a lot of these other guys and their skills at One Pocket won't save them now that he has acquired more knowledge of the game, thanks to Tom Wirth. If he can master all the moves in Tom's book, then he is ready to take on the world. But why start at the top?
I think some people underrated him on this thread, saying he still had a year or two to go to get to the top. I say he is at or near the top now! He could beat T-Rex. I will guarantee you one thing. He is not going to get blown out. Tony has a battle on his hands. This is not a guy (Filler) who likes to lose. He likes winning that dough, that's for sure!
One last thing. Brandon Shuff is one helluva guy in my book! He never complains and always gives it all he's got in every match. He is a real pool grinder, consistently in the money, usually in the top ten to twelve, but rarely in the top four to six. He seems to make two or three good scores every year and earns just enough to keep going. I would back him in a second! He is a low level pro player, but make no mistake about it, he is professional grade all the way. The man can play! Brandon almost got picked for the MC team last year as I recall. He just bit off a little too much taking on one of the best players in the world with Filler, not realizing this guy has been preparing himself for some serious One Pocket battles. Shuff was just a warm-up match for him.
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I counted the total balls pocketed by each player -- well, actually, final scores in each rack. I missed racks 10 and 11 which seem not to have been recorded. The totals for 15 racks were:
Filler 108
Shuff 51
I think Filler may have had home-table advantage in that he's been playing on that table for a month.
Filler 108
Shuff 51
I think Filler may have had home-table advantage in that he's been playing on that table for a month.
Just my opinion, but I don't think anyone from that list would have played against Filler, even though they all have way more experience than Filler. I think as of yesterday, the only players on the planet that would play Filler even in one hole (and more importantly can get backed) are Dennis, Alex, Shane (if he's not fishing
), Busty, and Tony. If Filler happens to beat Tony, all 5 of them would still step up and still play him.
I believe they were in a pool hall for this match, not Roy's basement table?