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billiardshot said:

Let not become a Boomerange Association or are we? Correct website http://www.usba.net not http://www.usba.org

Any of you who choose to help me out in this endeavor can be assured that all funds generated from these cues will go to The USBA and not to myself or any other individual. If you choose to make one of these cues you will get publicity on the USBA website [ http://www.usba.org ] as being an official sponsor of the organization as well as a link to your website. You will also get my heartfelt thanks.

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MINDSEYE153 said:

WOW

This thread flamed up in a hurry!


Paul
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Arnot Wadsworth said:

APDQW: “Historicaly [sic], the USBA players have not supported most of the American Cuemakers.


Dear Arnie, historically [to use your own word, spelled correctly here] there have been precious few cue builders who even knew there was such a thing as a billiard cue, let alone the specs to build one, most of them coming from the game of pocket billiards and were building pocket billiard cues. So how can you expect a carom player to buy a product from someone who does not even make it? “

APDQW: “There are very few 3C Billiard players that participate in this forum.”

Dear Arnie, as to participation by billiard players in this forum, there a very few of them in this country, in the first place, so naturally the are not to prevalent on AZ as pool players. So What ?? And why the heck are you, a pool cue builder, even on the carom forum, in the first place? Just to cause trouble, or what ???? Did you have a bad day in the shop ??? Get out of the wrong side of the bed ??? Just don't understand the point you are try to make here.

APQQW: “Most othe [sic] the 3C Billiard cues either come from you or Helmstetter in Japan.”

Dear Arnie, you obviously have no clue where carom billiard cues come from, totally mis-informed. Alcala de Guadaira in Spain, Schuler in this country, Longoni of Italy, Han Bat in Korea, a Mexican company I forget the name of, just to mention a few all manufacture carom cues. Even as I write these words a fellow from TURKEY is in my shop learning what it takes to build carom cues so that he can go back and degin building carom cues in that country. As to me and billiard cues I make maybe 2 or 3 a year AT MOST, but I do get several thou for each one, eat your heart out. For a living I MAKE POOL CUES not carom cues. And I can at least play both games, about you I have heard different. So here is a challenge. I want to match up with you if you think you can beat a 63 year old man. We will me at Barry's place in Virginia Beach [neutral ground about half way between where we reside]. You play with one of my cues, me with one of your funky ones and we will play 100 racks of 9 ball for $100 a rack and a 100 games of 3 Cushion to ten points, also for $100. Beside the money the overall loser will build a cue to be donated to the winners favorite charity. I will even pay your taxi fare to get there. Are you up for it ??? Or do you just want to crawl in some hole and duck me ??? :groucho:



APDQW: “I know there are some exceptions to this statement but the point is that we cuemakers do not owe the USBA anything.”

Dear Arnie, I really wish you had read [you can read can't you ??] my original post a little more carefully. Never did I imply that anybody “OWED” anything to anybody. And as a cue builder I thank heavens that you only think of yourself as a cue maker.


APQDW: “You should be asking for the support of those who have been making a living building 3C Billiard cues.”

Dear Arnie, well, duh, what do you think I am planning on doing? Just decided to ask some of my friends first, pardon me. You think I am stupid, or what ???? Of course I am planning on hitting up the big manufactures, who by the way have been donating a lot of cues to caroms over a lot of year already.:scratchhead:

APDQW: “I also wonder why it is suddenly ok to bulld [sic] a 3C Billiard Cue with a stainless steel pin when no "self-respecting 3C player" would own a billiard cue with anything but a wood pin? “

Dear Arnie, once again, you make a a statement based on total ignorance, to say nothing of a pathetic lack of knowledge of the history of cue building. As Mr. Watson [Billiard Shot] has pointed out Mr. Martin was using a metal long before you were even born. And I guess you are also not aware of the carom cues that my friend Ray Schuler built, either. If you want I can give you the phone numbers of so many billiard players that play with a cue with a metal joint pin, self respecting or not, that it will make you head spin. But it must have already been doing that for you to write your post in the first place.

APDQW: “I have donated a number of cues to exceptional causes over the years and I will continue to do so but it is a private matter and not one in which I expect to receive any credit.”

Dear Arnie, well good for you. More cue builders should do the same, after all, charity always begins at home. But now that you have started this pissing contest, how many and to whom. I will be happy to post my list if you post yours. Of course you don't want any credit, but then why even mention this in the first place. Again, don't really understand your point here. Little pat on the back for yourself maybe ???

APDQW: “You have not gone out of your way to make friends in this forum.”

Oh Arnie, Arnie, who needs friends when there are people like you out their. Unlike you, I do not have to go out of my way to make friends. I find that just by being honest and upfront, friendship happens. Friends are not an item you collect, they just happen because you be yourself. You, of course, being yourself, which I respect, probably don't have too many. Life can be sad can't it ???

APDQW: “In fact, most of your post are when you have something to sell or in this case want something to benefit your customers.”

Oh Arnie, what is wrong to do something that “your customers” benefit from ?? Personally, I like to think of the people I have built cues for over the years as friends, not customers. But then you can think whatever you want of people because I don't really give a rat's ass about your opinions. As to posting on AZ with something to sell it was only once, not as you allege, “most” of the time, and concerned some old magazines and books that I wanted to get rid of, not cues. I don't know where you gets your “facts” but you should at least check to see where you foot is going first

APDQW: “Now you say "Call me with questions please or just to talk. 734-428-1161.
" but years ago when I called you - you were overly rude to me.”

Hey Arnie, give me a call tomorrow and we will really have some fun. Love to talk with you. Boy did Thomas Wayne and I have fun for 4 phone hours after I wrote an article about CNC cue making for the First National Billiard Exchange. Generally speaking if I am rude to people on the phone [I mean if I want to sell you something to some one, why would I be rude to you ??] they are telemarketers. As I recall the conversation, you spent a long time asking me many question about how to build cues, all of which were a waste of both of our times as I told you [was that rude?] as you cannot teach cue building over the phone. As I recall I offered you both my video tapes [which I think you bought-correct me if I am wrong] as well as told you what you needed to do was come and spend a few weeks at The Cueniversity getting hands on experience.


APDQW: “Have a nice day.”

Really Arnie, how pathetically insincere and transparent can one man be ?? Sarcasm does not become you.


APDQW: “Don't trust any information by anyone who has not posted complete contact information. Those who post accurate information are not afraid for everyone to know who they are!”

Arnie, you know I normally don't mind flys, but when one buzzes around my head for a long time, then I have to go look for the fly swatter and smash it.

Certainly not wishing you a nice day, but then I always try to speak the truth.

PS: This probably means you won't be donating a cue to the USBA, right ??uttahere:

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