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09-18-2019, 09:37 PM

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I'm happy for John. The positive feedback he's gotten here from established legends of the straight pool discipline will mean the world to him.

Most of us on this forum have, at some point in our lives, demonstrated excellence at something. For some of us, it's in pool, for some of us it's in our trade or profession, for some of us it's in our hobbies. Each of us, consequently, knows how much it means to us when those most able to appreciate what it takes to attain such achievements nod with sustained approval.

Well done, John. The respect of your peers means everything!
Good post SJM, I wish everyone was as mature as that post represents.

If or when John's 14.1 exhibition world record run is beat the way he beat Willie's record, well, that person should recieve the same level of respect by their peers.

I'm so glad that it's John's peers and the like that actually gives the record holder/breaker the "nod".

It would be very sad indeed if it were left up to people that are less than his peers.

Again, good post sir,

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Cool So many things better to be doing with my time... - 09-18-2019, 09:48 PM

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Former Straight Pool champions react to news of John Schmidt's 626.

Have to love the sincere amazement, respect, and informed appreciation these world-class Straight Pool champions express about John’s record-breaking feat. The unreserved praise, analyses, and pure enthusiasm of his well-credentialed contemporaries are quite admirable and impressive.

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Champs Weigh In
Former straight pool champions react to news of John Schmidt's 626

Mike Sigel
World 14.1 Champion 1979, '81, '85

It's the most amazing feat I've ever heard. My high run was 339. Look at all the other runs he had in the 300s and 400s. How hard is what he did? He's the only one that's ever done it. You have to have the ability and you have to get a shot after 44 consecutive break shots. It's hard to believe. To concentrate that long and get the opportunity in 44 racks is amazing. As for criticism, I don't think this should be questioned at all. Give him the credit. The reality is that nobody else has even come close to that. Even if straight pool was the game today and all the top players were playing it all the time, I still don't think this number would be beat. That's how incredible it is.

Thorsten Hohmann
World 14.1 Champion 2006
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Champion 2011, '13, '15, '18

For starters, I have to give John credit for such a pubic attempt, putting the pressure on himself by putting his attempts on social media. It was a mission. And for him to put up so many high runs over that time is pretty amazing. And to get to 626 is incredible. I don't have an opinion on people's discussion of its merit. Him doing it is amazing. I don't care about who recognizes it.

Nick Varner
World 14.1 Champion 1980, '86

I don't think anybody has tried that hard before. This was John's goal and he accomplished it. My high run is 337. It's a remarkable feat to break Mosconi's record after all these years, and to break it on a 9-foot table is even better. I think this run should be accepted for what it is. It's not a game situation in either case. What's even more amazing to me is that he ran 100 more balls after he broke the record. Concentration is such a big part of running balls in straight pool and it would have been hard for me not to stop and celebrate after hitting 527.

Darren Appleton
World Tournament of 14.1 Champion 2014

To me, it's one of the greatest feats of all time in our sport. It's an incredible achievement. I didn't think he'd make it after breaking down on 400 a few times. The pressure once he got to 450 would be too much for anyone. But it was a lifelong ambition for him and his determination was amazing. He deserved it more than any other players. Negativity on social media has been disappointing, but John has the respect for this achievement from his fellow professionals because we all know what a mammoth effort it was and how difficult this really is.
So many things better to be doing with my time...

How nice.

Well, let's go through these.

Thorsten Hohmann - a Candian
I really wish this person was here contributing and telling stories.
Darren Appleton - a Brit
I really should look into him more.

This is an American Legend topic. I have no idea why they feel they can chime in except to say congrats.

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"I think this run should be accepted for what it is. It's not a game situation in either case."

I don't think he is agreeing as you want. Translated it means, it is "John's best-ever high run" or whatever but not related or linked to Mosconi. If he wants to beat Mosconi, he needs to do it the same way, as the end of a game and no bank shots.

Mike Sigel
Put me down as a fan. I just wish when they put a mic on him the would actually let us listen to what he is saying.

"I don't think this should be questioned at all. Give him the credit."

No this isn't something that should be questioned. The evidence should be so clear that there is no room to question any aspect. But there is no tangible public evidence to support his claim that he, in fact, ran 626 balls with strict adherence to the rules except a statement from the BCA. This isn't the Miss whatever title and we are going to "Give" it sally because she tries so hard to keep the weight off. This is something earned by doing something amazing. Not having a good day on your practice table under a lot of sketchy conditions.

If you want the credit for beating Mosconi, then you need to beat him on his own turf, 1 game, 1 chance, one long run until you miss, with a ref, a normal rack, right side of the table, Maple cue, Masters, same table dimensions, no 5 hour boost, on a table used by the public, with the same kind of felt, balls, and a licensed attorney with a Notary to make it all nice and legal just like happened to the Legend. Hec you might as well drive there that day and sleep in your car for a while before you start at 8:00 before 50 or so near-strangers that have assembled in advanced who are having a few "pops" and waiting to see the famous you play pool.

Good luck with that.


Bottom line, you can't "GIVE HIM" an achievement he didn't earn.


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09-18-2019, 09:51 PM

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I'm happy for John. The positive feedback he's gotten here from established legends of the straight pool discipline will mean the world to him.

Most of us on this forum have, at some point in our lives, demonstrated excellence at something. For some of us, it's in pool, for some of us it's in our trade or profession, for some of us it's in our hobbies. Each of us, consequently, knows how much it means to us when those most able to appreciate what it takes to attain such achievements nod with sustained approval.

Well done, John. The respect of your peers means everything!
Stuart: Centuries ago an anonymous English writer extended this advice:

“When you create or achieve something that is possibly one of your finest efforts, you will enjoy the admiration of your peers, but take care to ignore envious and cynical critics. Dealing with such critics can be compared to being nibbled to death by ducks.”

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09-18-2019, 10:05 PM

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So many things better to be doing with my time...

How nice.

Well, let's go through these.

Thorsten Hohmann - a Candian
I really wish this person was here contributing and telling stories.
Darren Appleton - a Brit
I really should look into him more.
Don’t think Thorsten is a Candian.....unless that is what they call people from Germany.
  
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Stuart: Centuries ago an anonymous English writer extended this advice:

“When you create or achieve something that is possibly one of your finest efforts, you will enjoy the admiration of your peers, but take care to ignore envious and cynical critics. Dealing with such critics can be compared to being nibbled to death by ducks.”

Arnaldo
Who ever the writer was, was spot on.

However, in some cases, it wouod be better to be eaten by ducks than to have to listen to the dribble of the jealous morons.

Thanks for the post sir,

Jeff


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Stuart: Centuries ago an anonymous English writer extended this advice:

“When you create or achieve something that is possibly one of your finest efforts, you will enjoy the admiration of your peers, but take care to ignore envious and cynical critics. Dealing with such critics can be compared to being nibbled to death by ducks.”

Arnaldo
Also, there is Theodore Roosevelt's "The Man in the Arena" (a brilliant read)

(a couple of excerpts)

"It is not the critic who counts..."

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena..."
  
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09-18-2019, 11:58 PM

No matter how you disparage it, freaking 626 is freaking 626.


  
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09-19-2019, 12:01 AM

I’ve played longer than most on AZB, starting sometime in 1958. I grew up playing straight pool, and still play the game once a week on Tuesdays.
I love the game.

The achievement by John is so tremendous that it almost leaves adjectives in the dust.
Not just the crowning achievement of the eventual high run, but all the multi-hundred ball runs that he made during his dogged, dedicated run for the eventual finish line.

And, as one of the champions said earlier, to be able to maintain focus after reaching 500 but not yet 526, and to run another hundred after....well.....amazing. Simply incredible.

To be honest, it makes me feel good just to be able to spout a few words in support of John, his high run, and the additional interest in the game that it has generated.

Way to go, John! There are many, many thousands who take positive note of your accomplishment.
Kinda like Hemingway’s Santiago and his Marlin in The Old Man and the Sea.

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09-19-2019, 12:03 AM

I don't see why people cannot get behind John? When the video is released,

what will it be then? 626 balls. Shot in the pocket. On a 9 foot table. Things have

changed since Mosconi's run, and it still wasn't beaten until John did it. Maple cue?

Come on...really? Masters chalk? WTF! And coming from people who don't even know

where Thorsten is from, and have to 'look' into Appleton? Really? Do you even shoot pool?

Reaching real far with Varners quip also, NEITHER were in competition! But what do I know,

except all those living legends were not even close to beating 526, nevermind the new

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I’ve played longer than most on AZB, starting sometime in 1958. I grew up playing straight pool, and still play the game once a week on Tuesdays.
I love the game.

The achievement by John is so tremendous that it almost leaves adjectives in the dust.
Not just the crowning achievement of the eventual high run, but all the multi-hundred ball runs that he made during his dogged, dedicated run for the eventual finish line.

And, as one of the champions said earlier, to be able to maintain focus after reaching 500 but not yet 526, and to run another hundred after....well.....amazing. Simply incredible.

To be honest, it makes me feel good just to be able to spout a few words in support of John, his high run, and the additional interest in the game that it has generated.

Way to go, John! There are many, many thousands who take positive note of your accomplishment.
Kinda like Hemingway’s Santiago and his Marlin in The Old Man and the Sea.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is a great post coming from an awesome person thats been around the block and knows a thing or two.

Thank you sir,

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I’ve played longer than most on AZB, starting sometime in 1958. I grew up playing straight pool, and still play the game once a week on Tuesdays.
I love the game.

The achievement by John is so tremendous that it almost leaves adjectives in the dust.
Not just the crowning achievement of the eventual high run, but all the multi-hundred ball runs that he made during his dogged, dedicated run for the eventual finish line.

And, as one of the champions said earlier, to be able to maintain focus after reaching 500 but not yet 526, and to run another hundred after....well.....amazing. Simply incredible.

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Way to go, John! There are many, many thousands who take positive note of your accomplishment.
Kinda like Hemingway’s Santiago and his Marlin in The Old Man and the Sea.

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Stuart: Centuries ago an anonymous English writer extended this advice:

“When you create or achieve something that is possibly one of your finest efforts, you will enjoy the admiration of your peers, but take care to ignore envious and cynical critics. Dealing with such critics can be compared to being nibbled to death by ducks.”

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