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06-06-2014, 11:54 AM

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Just because the National Guard didn't care doesn't mean he wasn't AWOL.
When was he charged and tried?
How many men risked their lives and died searching for him?
Yet, you lefties smeared him as a "deserter" from a war you declared
"illegal, unjust and unnecessary".
Meanwhile, John Kerry was declared a war hero for running from the battlefield and smearing the troops he left behind.
You guys are a trip.
  
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06-06-2014, 12:19 PM

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Yet, you lefties smeared him as a "deserter" from a war you declared
"illegal, unjust and unnecessary".
You forgot immoral. All have justification

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Meanwhile, John Kerry was declared a war hero for running from the battlefield and smearing the troops he left behind.
You guys are a trip.
John Kerry, who received several combat medals during this tour, including the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts, which, before you go off on your next wingnut rantathon, are verified as deserved here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

Now those opposed to him, for obvious political reasons, reinvented history to the extent that a new term was invented.

Swiftboating.

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The term swiftboating (also spelled swift-boating or swift boating) is an American neologism used pejoratively to describe an unfair or untrue political attack. The term is derived from the name of the organization "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" (SBVT, later the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth) because of their widely publicized—and then discredited—campaign against 2004 U.S. Presidential candidate John Kerr

Since the political smear campaign[2][5][6][7][8] conducted by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth against John Kerry, the term "swiftboating" has come into common use to refer to a harsh attack by a political opponent that is dishonest, personal, and unfair.[9][10] The Swift Boat Veterans and media pundits objected to this use of the term to define a smear campaign.

The unsubstantiated charges against Kerry by the SVPT gave rise to the term "swiftboating" as a synonym for "the nastiest of campaign smears",[6] "a slimy political attack",[15] and, for many, "ugly, unprincipled slander"


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06-06-2014, 12:34 PM

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You forgot immoral. All have justification



John Kerry, who received several combat medals during this tour, including the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts, which, before you go off on your next wingnut rantathon, are verified as deserved here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

Now those opposed to him, for obvious political reasons, reinvented history to the extent that a new term was invented.

Swiftboating.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftboating
Kerry is a liar and a fraud who spent about 3 months in a combat outfit until he collected enough medals to rotate out.
Then he smeared the men he left behind to do the fighting and used that as a springboard for his political career.
  
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06-06-2014, 12:38 PM

If they do not charge him with Article 134 of the UCMJ then the military is disgracing all those that have died before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_article

Bet most didn't even know this existed........
  
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06-06-2014, 12:38 PM

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Kerry is a liar and a fraud who spent about 3 months in a combat outfit until he collected enough medals to rotate out.
Then he smeared the men he left behind to do the fighting and used that as a springboard for his political career.
Don't forget that he's a Billionaire who lectures us on income inequality.........
  
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06-06-2014, 12:54 PM

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Kerry is a liar and a fraud who spent about 3 months in a combat outfit until he collected enough medals to rotate out.
Then he smeared the men he left behind to do the fighting and used that as a springboard for his political career.
So now Kerry's been bamadogged

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06-06-2014, 01:10 PM

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[COLOR="Black"]So now Kerry's been bamadogged
I read the book.
I'm guessing you didn't.
  
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06-06-2014, 01:13 PM

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I read the book.
I'm guessing you didn't.
Couldn't get through it. If I want to read good fantasy, I'll read George RR Martin or Tad Williams


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06-06-2014, 01:18 PM

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Couldn't get through it. If I want to read good fantasy, I'll read George RR Martin or Tad Williams
It must have been painful to watch one of your priests de-frocked.
  
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06-06-2014, 01:22 PM

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Don't forget that he's a Billionaire who lectures us on income inequality.........
He's married to a possible billionairess who has not signed over half her inherited fortune to his co-ownership. He is nowhere near a billionaire himself, just near a possible billionare(ss). (Her net worth is sometimes given as low as the $200 million dollar range, as of 2013.)

This is not atypical for when a very wealthy person marries someone who is not one. Often the property and money remain in the original owner's name only. That simplifies any ensuing divorce proceedings and reduces the exposure to loss.

That seems to be how THK set things up with JFK.
  
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06-06-2014, 01:38 PM

So now there are reports that Berghdal was playing soccer, shooting an AK47 with the taliban and being allowed to carry the weapon in camp.

Hmmmmmmm.


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06-06-2014, 01:44 PM

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It must have been painful to watch one of your priests de-frocked.
I watched as a decorated war veteran was shamelessly disparaged by a bunch of yahoo's like yourself (not his own boat-mates, who, with the possible exception of one, fully supported him), more intent of ideology than the truth.

That the Republicans are so adept at character assassination, as perfected by Lee Atwater and Carl Rove, is obviously satisfying in victory. For you, it is all about winning at any cost. It is such an effective tactic, that Democrats and Independents are at such a disadvantage, as they are not as ideologically driven that selling one's sole to the devil is worth it.

But we're not dismayed as long as we have facts, logic and, typically, middle America on our side.


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06-06-2014, 01:59 PM

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I watched as a decorated war veteran was shamelessly disparaged by a bunch of yahoo's like yourself (not his own boat-mates, who, with the possible exception of one, fully supported him), more intent of ideology than the truth.

That the Republicans are so adept at character assassination, as perfected by Lee Atwater and Carl Rove, is obviously satisfying in victory. For you, it is all about winning at any cost. It is such an effective tactic, that Democrats and Independents are at such a disadvantage, as they are not as ideologically driven that selling one's sole to the devil is worth it.

But we're not dismayed as long as we have facts, logic and, typically, middle America on our side.
If you had read the book you'd know that his decorations were a sham.
The book (you didn't read) goes over the circumstances involving each one.

Tell me, how did Kerry rotate out of Vietnam after only a few months?

Not to mention his smearing the men who stayed behind to do the fighting while he built a political career on lies he told about them.
  
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06-06-2014, 02:01 PM

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The Army would search for any missing personnel, whether AWOL, deserter, or a POW, or none of the above. Since their search would be the same whatever the status, that they searched proves nothing (other than they knew he was missing and unaccounted for). They know how to create an official 'deserter' status. Did they? Do officially designated deserters receive promotions? That would be a no.
What you are discounting is that according to the Rolling stones article Bowe's platoon was only 2/3's strength. There were 25 members about 8 of them were on Megyn Kelley and they all thought he deserted.

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He's married to a possible billionairess who has not signed over half her inherited fortune to his co-ownership. He is nowhere near a billionaire himself, just near a possible billionare(ss). (Her net worth is sometimes given as low as the $200 million dollar range, as of 2013.)

This is not atypical for when a very wealthy person marries someone who is not one. Often the property and money remain in the original owner's name only. That simplifies any ensuing divorce proceedings and reduces the exposure to loss.

That seems to be how THK set things up with JFK.
Awe he only is worth a measly 200 million. John Kerry is a backstabber who besmirched the entire US armed services. It is like having Jane Fonda as secretary of state. These guys are both Bollinger Bolsheviks. My old mechanic was restoring Jane's Gull Wing 300 SL Mercedes from the fifties. She got all the parts in Hollywood and made millions. Remember Tinseltown is the fakest place on earth. Her car was red sort of like her until she married a billionaire.
  
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