I would like to see that correlation also. If people post their Fargo Ratings, I would be happy to add them to the list of results.
Good idea,
Dave
Billiard University (BU) playing-ability-exam scores and ratings
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Good idea,
Dave
I know it has been a while since I took your test David but I am a well established 625 in Fargorate with over 1400 games in.
I think I might be a little better today than I was when I took your test but not by much. At least I hope I am a little better...
:Ken
Thank you for being the first to post a Fargo Rating! I'll add it to your record.I know it has been a while since I took your test David but I am a well established 625 in Fargorate with over 1400 games in.
I think I might be a little better today than I was when I took your test but not by much. At least I hope I am a little better...
Ken
And I hope you take the exams again to prove to us how much you have improved.
Good luck,
Dave
Here's the latest updated list of records:
AZB'ers who have taken the BU playing-ability exams (with top scores to date):
BU score (Exam I + Exam II) - User - 10-ball ghost rating [15-ball-rotation rating] {Fargo Rating} - Table size, corner pocket mouth, throat, shelf - Video/post links:
168 (80 + D:88) - Gerry Williams - 93 [17] - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
164 (84 + D:80) - theUBC - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 4 1/8", 1 3/4" - Exam I, Exam II
161* (88 + M:73) - dr_dave - 74 [34 - demo racks] - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
160 (79 + D:81) - scottjen26 - 64 [20] - 9', 4 1/2", 3 7/8", 1 1/2" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
157* (88 + M:69) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 2 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, post)
146* (82 + M:64) - dr_dave - 63 - 7', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 3/4" - post
143 (78 + D:65) - Marc Vidal - ? - 9', 4 1/8", 3 5/16", 1" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
141 (70 + D:71) - 12squared - 78 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - post
141* (81 + M:60) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 3 1/2", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
136 (73 + D:63) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - post
135* (71 + M:64) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
135* (74 + M:61) - dr_dave - 54 - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
132 (69 + M:63) - Gerry Williams - 73 - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
132* (76 + M:56) - BRussell - 51 - 8', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/2" - Exam I, Exam II
130 (63 + M:67) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
129 (69 + M:60) - Spimp13 - ? - ? - post
127 (67 + M:60) - Okie - 61 {625} - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
127* (65 + M:62) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Exam I, post
124 (71 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
124 (64 + M:60) - JC - 57 - 9', 4 7/16", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam 1, Exam 2
121* (63 + M:58) - TheOneGnat - 51 - 8', 4 1/2", 4", 1 5/8" - AZB post and update
118 (63 + M:55) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
117 (53 + M:58) - RobMan - 46 - 9', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/5" - post
113 (? + M:?) - Eagleshot - 48 - 9', 4 1/2, 4", 1 1/4" - PM
112* (61 + M:51) - gregcantrall - ? - 8', 4 3/8", 4 1/8", 1" - post
110* (62 + M:48) - caff3in3 - ? - 8', 5", ? - post
108 (59 + M:49) - row21097 - 57 - 9', 4 1/2”, 4”, 1 1/2” - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2, part 3), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
106 (53 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
101* (59 + M:42) - 67tbird - 46 - 8', 4 1/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
94 (57 + M:37) - BeiberLvr - ? - ? - post
91* (62 + M:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 1 1/2" - post
90 (? + M:?) - EagleEye - ? - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - 2013 BU Summer School Boot Camp
89 (56 + M:33) - mamics - 31 - 9', 4 5/8", 3 13/16", 1 1/4" - post
88 (? + B:?) - DrGonzo - 47 - 9', 4.5", 4", 1.5" - post
87 (49 + B:38) - iusedtoberich - 38 [47] - 9', 5 1/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
82 (57 + B:25) - krupa - 24 - 9', 4 3/4", 3 5/8", 1 1/4" - post
77* (48 + B:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 1" - post
68 (35 + B:33) - icucybe - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 3 /1/2", 1 3/4" - post
68 (44 + B:24) - pleforowicz - 24 - 9', 11.7cm, 9.2cm, 3.8cm - post
63 (41 + B:22) - SamLambert - ? - 9', ? - Exams I and II
*: not on a 9' or larger table
NOTE - Other scores and videos, for official BU graduates, can be found on the BU alumni page.
AZB'ers who have taken the BU playing-ability exams (with top scores to date):
BU score (Exam I + Exam II) - User - 10-ball ghost rating [15-ball-rotation rating] {Fargo Rating} - Table size, corner pocket mouth, throat, shelf - Video/post links:
168 (80 + D:88) - Gerry Williams - 93 [17] - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
164 (84 + D:80) - theUBC - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 4 1/8", 1 3/4" - Exam I, Exam II
161* (88 + M:73) - dr_dave - 74 [34 - demo racks] - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
160 (79 + D:81) - scottjen26 - 64 [20] - 9', 4 1/2", 3 7/8", 1 1/2" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
157* (88 + M:69) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 2 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, post)
146* (82 + M:64) - dr_dave - 63 - 7', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 3/4" - post
143 (78 + D:65) - Marc Vidal - ? - 9', 4 1/8", 3 5/16", 1" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
141 (70 + D:71) - 12squared - 78 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - post
141* (81 + M:60) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 3 1/2", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
136 (73 + D:63) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - post
135* (71 + M:64) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
135* (74 + M:61) - dr_dave - 54 - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
132 (69 + M:63) - Gerry Williams - 73 - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
132* (76 + M:56) - BRussell - 51 - 8', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/2" - Exam I, Exam II
130 (63 + M:67) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
129 (69 + M:60) - Spimp13 - ? - ? - post
127 (67 + M:60) - Okie - 61 {625} - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
127* (65 + M:62) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Exam I, post
124 (71 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
124 (64 + M:60) - JC - 57 - 9', 4 7/16", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam 1, Exam 2
121* (63 + M:58) - TheOneGnat - 51 - 8', 4 1/2", 4", 1 5/8" - AZB post and update
118 (63 + M:55) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
117 (53 + M:58) - RobMan - 46 - 9', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/5" - post
113 (? + M:?) - Eagleshot - 48 - 9', 4 1/2, 4", 1 1/4" - PM
112* (61 + M:51) - gregcantrall - ? - 8', 4 3/8", 4 1/8", 1" - post
110* (62 + M:48) - caff3in3 - ? - 8', 5", ? - post
108 (59 + M:49) - row21097 - 57 - 9', 4 1/2”, 4”, 1 1/2” - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2, part 3), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
106 (53 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
101* (59 + M:42) - 67tbird - 46 - 8', 4 1/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
94 (57 + M:37) - BeiberLvr - ? - ? - post
91* (62 + M:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 1 1/2" - post
90 (? + M:?) - EagleEye - ? - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - 2013 BU Summer School Boot Camp
89 (56 + M:33) - mamics - 31 - 9', 4 5/8", 3 13/16", 1 1/4" - post
88 (? + B:?) - DrGonzo - 47 - 9', 4.5", 4", 1.5" - post
87 (49 + B:38) - iusedtoberich - 38 [47] - 9', 5 1/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
82 (57 + B:25) - krupa - 24 - 9', 4 3/4", 3 5/8", 1 1/4" - post
77* (48 + B:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 1" - post
68 (35 + B:33) - icucybe - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 3 /1/2", 1 3/4" - post
68 (44 + B:24) - pleforowicz - 24 - 9', 11.7cm, 9.2cm, 3.8cm - post
63 (41 + B:22) - SamLambert - ? - 9', ? - Exams I and II
*: not on a 9' or larger table
NOTE - Other scores and videos, for official BU graduates, can be found on the BU alumni page.
I was hoping your post would contain the score and video showing SVB taking the exam!
I've been very busy this week, and I haven't had time to finish the Shane video edits. I hope to post Shane's videos and scores tomorrow.
Regards,
Dave
Shane Van Boening recently took the Billiard University (BU) playing-ability exams. Here are his videos:
SVB BU Exam I
SVB BU Exam II
And here's how he scored:
S1:10 + S2:15 + S3:14 + S4:14 + S5:7 + S6:4 + S7:1 + S8:3 + S9:5 + S10:4 = 77
BU Score = Exam I:84 + Exam II:77 = 161 (Doctorate of Pool)
Enjoy,
Dave
SVB BU Exam I
SVB BU Exam II
And here's how he scored:
S1:10 + S2:15 + S3:14 + S4:14 + S5:7 + S6:4 + S7:1 + S8:3 + S9:5 + S10:4 = 77
BU Score = Exam I:84 + Exam II:77 = 161 (Doctorate of Pool)
Enjoy,
Dave
Here's the latest, including SVB's info:
AZB'ers who have taken the BU playing-ability exams (with top scores to date):
BU score (Exam I + Exam II) - User - 10-ball ghost rating [15-ball-rotation rating] {Fargo Rating} - Table size, corner pocket mouth, throat, shelf - Video/post links:
168 (80 + D:88) - Gerry Williams - 93 [17] - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
164 (84 + D:80) - theUBC - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 4 1/8", 1 3/4" - Exam I, Exam II
161 (84 + D:77) - Shane Van Boening - ? {822} - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
161* (88 + M:73) - dr_dave - 74 [34 - demo racks] - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
160 (79 + D:81) - scottjen26 - 64 [20] - 9', 4 1/2", 3 7/8", 1 1/2" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
157* (88 + M:69) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 2 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, post)
146* (82 + M:64) - dr_dave - 63 - 7', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 3/4" - post
143 (78 + D:65) - Marc Vidal - ? - 9', 4 1/8", 3 5/16", 1" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
141 (70 + D:71) - 12squared - 78 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - post
141* (81 + M:60) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 3 1/2", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
136 (73 + D:63) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - post
135* (71 + M:64) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
135* (74 + M:61) - dr_dave - 54 - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
132 (69 + M:63) - Gerry Williams - 73 - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
132* (76 + M:56) - BRussell - 51 - 8', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/2" - Exam I, Exam II
130 (63 + M:67) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
129 (69 + M:60) - Spimp13 - ? - ? - post
127 (67 + M:60) - Okie - 61 {625} - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
127* (65 + M:62) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Exam I, post
124 (71 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
124 (64 + M:60) - JC - 57 - 9', 4 7/16", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam 1, Exam 2
121* (63 + M:58) - TheOneGnat - 51 - 8', 4 1/2", 4", 1 5/8" - AZB post and update
118 (63 + M:55) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
117 (53 + M:58) - RobMan - 46 - 9', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/5" - post
113 (? + M:?) - Eagleshot - 48 - 9', 4 1/2, 4", 1 1/4" - PM
112* (61 + M:51) - gregcantrall - ? - 8', 4 3/8", 4 1/8", 1" - post
110* (62 + M:48) - caff3in3 - ? - 8', 5", ? - post
108 (59 + M:49) - row21097 - 57 - 9', 4 1/2”, 4”, 1 1/2” - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2, part 3), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
106 (53 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
101* (59 + M:42) - 67tbird - 46 - 8', 4 1/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
94 (57 + M:37) - BeiberLvr - ? - ? - post
91* (62 + M:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 1 1/2" - post
90 (? + M:?) - EagleEye - ? - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - 2013 BU Summer School Boot Camp
89 (56 + M:33) - mamics - 31 - 9', 4 5/8", 3 13/16", 1 1/4" - post
88 (? + B:?) - DrGonzo - 47 - 9', 4.5", 4", 1.5" - post
87 (49 + B:38) - iusedtoberich - 38 [47] - 9', 5 1/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
82 (57 + B:25) - krupa - 24 - 9', 4 3/4", 3 5/8", 1 1/4" - post
77* (48 + B:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 1" - post
68 (35 + B:33) - icucybe - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 3 /1/2", 1 3/4" - post
68 (44 + B:24) - pleforowicz - 24 - 9', 11.7cm, 9.2cm, 3.8cm - post
63 (41 + B:22) - SamLambert - ? - 9', ? - Exams I and II
*: not on a 9' or larger table
NOTE - Other scores and videos, for official BU graduates, can be found on the BU alumni page.
AZB'ers who have taken the BU playing-ability exams (with top scores to date):
BU score (Exam I + Exam II) - User - 10-ball ghost rating [15-ball-rotation rating] {Fargo Rating} - Table size, corner pocket mouth, throat, shelf - Video/post links:
168 (80 + D:88) - Gerry Williams - 93 [17] - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
164 (84 + D:80) - theUBC - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 4 1/8", 1 3/4" - Exam I, Exam II
161 (84 + D:77) - Shane Van Boening - ? {822} - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
161* (88 + M:73) - dr_dave - 74 [34 - demo racks] - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
160 (79 + D:81) - scottjen26 - 64 [20] - 9', 4 1/2", 3 7/8", 1 1/2" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
157* (88 + M:69) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 2 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, post)
146* (82 + M:64) - dr_dave - 63 - 7', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 3/4" - post
143 (78 + D:65) - Marc Vidal - ? - 9', 4 1/8", 3 5/16", 1" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
141 (70 + D:71) - 12squared - 78 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - post
141* (81 + M:60) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 3 1/2", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
136 (73 + D:63) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - post
135* (71 + M:64) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
135* (74 + M:61) - dr_dave - 54 - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
132 (69 + M:63) - Gerry Williams - 73 - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
132* (76 + M:56) - BRussell - 51 - 8', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/2" - Exam I, Exam II
130 (63 + M:67) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
129 (69 + M:60) - Spimp13 - ? - ? - post
127 (67 + M:60) - Okie - 61 {625} - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
127* (65 + M:62) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Exam I, post
124 (71 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
124 (64 + M:60) - JC - 57 - 9', 4 7/16", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam 1, Exam 2
121* (63 + M:58) - TheOneGnat - 51 - 8', 4 1/2", 4", 1 5/8" - AZB post and update
118 (63 + M:55) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
117 (53 + M:58) - RobMan - 46 - 9', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/5" - post
113 (? + M:?) - Eagleshot - 48 - 9', 4 1/2, 4", 1 1/4" - PM
112* (61 + M:51) - gregcantrall - ? - 8', 4 3/8", 4 1/8", 1" - post
110* (62 + M:48) - caff3in3 - ? - 8', 5", ? - post
108 (59 + M:49) - row21097 - 57 - 9', 4 1/2”, 4”, 1 1/2” - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2, part 3), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
106 (53 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
101* (59 + M:42) - 67tbird - 46 - 8', 4 1/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
94 (57 + M:37) - BeiberLvr - ? - ? - post
91* (62 + M:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 1 1/2" - post
90 (? + M:?) - EagleEye - ? - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - 2013 BU Summer School Boot Camp
89 (56 + M:33) - mamics - 31 - 9', 4 5/8", 3 13/16", 1 1/4" - post
88 (? + B:?) - DrGonzo - 47 - 9', 4.5", 4", 1.5" - post
87 (49 + B:38) - iusedtoberich - 38 [47] - 9', 5 1/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
82 (57 + B:25) - krupa - 24 - 9', 4 3/4", 3 5/8", 1 1/4" - post
77* (48 + B:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 1" - post
68 (35 + B:33) - icucybe - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 3 /1/2", 1 3/4" - post
68 (44 + B:24) - pleforowicz - 24 - 9', 11.7cm, 9.2cm, 3.8cm - post
63 (41 + B:22) - SamLambert - ? - 9', ? - Exams I and II
*: not on a 9' or larger table
NOTE - Other scores and videos, for official BU graduates, can be found on the BU alumni page.
BU Exam Results
Dr. Dave.
Saw your post and watched the videos of SVB doing the exams, it motivated me to give it a go.
Table is a Gold crown, pockets are standard brunswicks, don't know the exact measurements.
Bear in mind this is the very first try.
Fundamental exam.
F1:8 F2:6 F3:10 F4:6 F5:6 F6:7 F7:10 F8:11 total:64
Masters level exam
S1:7 S2:11 S3:12 S4:12 S5:5 S6:5 S7:2 S8:5 S9:4 S10:3 total:66
Total score :64+66=130
I also did a 10 rack 10 ball ghost rating
7+10+5+10+6+6+7+10+3=68
I enjoyed the exams, a great change of pace. Will definitely do them again soon.
Steve H.
Dr. Dave.
Saw your post and watched the videos of SVB doing the exams, it motivated me to give it a go.
Table is a Gold crown, pockets are standard brunswicks, don't know the exact measurements.
Bear in mind this is the very first try.
Fundamental exam.
F1:8 F2:6 F3:10 F4:6 F5:6 F6:7 F7:10 F8:11 total:64
Masters level exam
S1:7 S2:11 S3:12 S4:12 S5:5 S6:5 S7:2 S8:5 S9:4 S10:3 total:66
Total score :64+66=130
I also did a 10 rack 10 ball ghost rating
7+10+5+10+6+6+7+10+3=68
I enjoyed the exams, a great change of pace. Will definitely do them again soon.
Steve H.
That's an excellent score for a first attempt. I look forward to seeing how much better you can do after a more-practiced attempt. And if you have a video camera, please consider posting videos also.
Good luck,
Dave
Here's the latest:
AZB'ers who have taken the BU playing-ability exams (with top scores to date):
BU score (Exam I + Exam II) - User - 10-ball ghost rating [15-ball-rotation rating] {Fargo Rating} - Table size, corner pocket mouth, throat, shelf - Video/post links:
168 (80 + D:88) - Gerry Williams - 93 [17] - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
164 (84 + D:80) - theUBC - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 4 1/8", 1 3/4" - Exam I, Exam II
161 (84 + D:77) - Shane Van Boening - ? {822} - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
161* (88 + M:73) - dr_dave - 74 [34 - demo racks] - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
160 (79 + D:81) - scottjen26 - 64 [20] - 9', 4 1/2", 3 7/8", 1 1/2" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
157* (88 + M:69) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 2 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, post)
146* (82 + M:64) - dr_dave - 63 - 7', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 3/4" - post
143 (78 + D:65) - Marc Vidal - ? - 9', 4 1/8", 3 5/16", 1" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
141 (70 + D:71) - 12squared - 78 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - post
141* (81 + M:60) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 3 1/2", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
136 (73 + D:63) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - post
135* (71 + M:64) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
135* (74 + M:61) - dr_dave - 54 - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
132 (69 + M:63) - Gerry Williams - 73 - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
132* (76 + M:56) - BRussell - 51 - 8', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/2" - Exam I, Exam II
130 (64 + M:66) - sjharr - 68 - 9', ? - post
130 (63 + M:67) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
129 (69 + M:60) - Spimp13 - ? - ? - post
127 (67 + M:60) - Okie - 61 {625} - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
127* (65 + M:62) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Exam I, post
124 (71 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
124 (64 + M:60) - JC - 57 - 9', 4 7/16", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam 1, Exam 2
121* (63 + M:58) - TheOneGnat - 51 - 8', 4 1/2", 4", 1 5/8" - AZB post and update
118 (63 + M:55) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
117 (53 + M:58) - RobMan - 46 - 9', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/5" - post
113 (? + M:?) - Eagleshot - 48 - 9', 4 1/2, 4", 1 1/4" - PM
112* (61 + M:51) - gregcantrall - ? - 8', 4 3/8", 4 1/8", 1" - post
110* (62 + M:48) - caff3in3 - ? - 8', 5", ? - post
108 (59 + M:49) - row21097 - 57 - 9', 4 1/2”, 4”, 1 1/2” - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2, part 3), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
106 (53 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
101* (59 + M:42) - 67tbird - 46 - 8', 4 1/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
94 (57 + M:37) - BeiberLvr - ? - ? - post
91* (62 + M:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 1 1/2" - post
90 (? + M:?) - EagleEye - ? - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - 2013 BU Summer School Boot Camp
89 (56 + M:33) - mamics - 31 - 9', 4 5/8", 3 13/16", 1 1/4" - post
88 (? + B:?) - DrGonzo - 47 - 9', 4.5", 4", 1.5" - post
87 (49 + B:38) - iusedtoberich - 38 [47] - 9', 5 1/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
82 (57 + B:25) - krupa - 24 - 9', 4 3/4", 3 5/8", 1 1/4" - post
77* (48 + B:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 1" - post
68 (35 + B:33) - icucybe - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 3 /1/2", 1 3/4" - post
68 (44 + B:24) - pleforowicz - 24 - 9', 11.7cm, 9.2cm, 3.8cm - post
63 (41 + B:22) - SamLambert - ? - 9', ? - Exams I and II
*: not on a 9' or larger table
NOTE - Other scores and videos, for official BU graduates, can be found on the BU alumni page.
AZB'ers who have taken the BU playing-ability exams (with top scores to date):
BU score (Exam I + Exam II) - User - 10-ball ghost rating [15-ball-rotation rating] {Fargo Rating} - Table size, corner pocket mouth, throat, shelf - Video/post links:
168 (80 + D:88) - Gerry Williams - 93 [17] - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
164 (84 + D:80) - theUBC - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 4 1/8", 1 3/4" - Exam I, Exam II
161 (84 + D:77) - Shane Van Boening - ? {822} - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
161* (88 + M:73) - dr_dave - 74 [34 - demo racks] - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
160 (79 + D:81) - scottjen26 - 64 [20] - 9', 4 1/2", 3 7/8", 1 1/2" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
157* (88 + M:69) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 2 7/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, post)
146* (82 + M:64) - dr_dave - 63 - 7', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 3/4" - post
143 (78 + D:65) - Marc Vidal - ? - 9', 4 1/8", 3 5/16", 1" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
141 (70 + D:71) - 12squared - 78 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - post
141* (81 + M:60) - Neil - 60 - 7', 4 1/8", 3 1/2", 1 3/8" - Exam I (part 1, part 2), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
136 (73 + D:63) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - post
135* (71 + M:64) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
135* (74 + M:61) - dr_dave - 54 - 8', 4 3/4", 4 1/8", 1 3/8" - Exam I, Exam II
132 (69 + M:63) - Gerry Williams - 73 - 9', 4 1/2", 4", 1 7/8" - Table, Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
132* (76 + M:56) - BRussell - 51 - 8', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/2" - Exam I, Exam II
130 (64 + M:66) - sjharr - 68 - 9', ? - post
130 (63 + M:67) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
129 (69 + M:60) - Spimp13 - ? - ? - post
127 (67 + M:60) - Okie - 61 {625} - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
127* (65 + M:62) - Mooneye - 49 - 7', 4 7/8", 4 1/8", 1 5/8" - Exam I, post
124 (71 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
124 (64 + M:60) - JC - 57 - 9', 4 7/16", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - Table, Exam 1, Exam 2
121* (63 + M:58) - TheOneGnat - 51 - 8', 4 1/2", 4", 1 5/8" - AZB post and update
118 (63 + M:55) - bowiebill - 58 - 9', 4 3/4", 4", 1 1/4" - Exam I, Exam II (part 1, part 2)
117 (53 + M:58) - RobMan - 46 - 9', 5", 4 1/4", 1 1/5" - post
113 (? + M:?) - Eagleshot - 48 - 9', 4 1/2, 4", 1 1/4" - PM
112* (61 + M:51) - gregcantrall - ? - 8', 4 3/8", 4 1/8", 1" - post
110* (62 + M:48) - caff3in3 - ? - 8', 5", ? - post
108 (59 + M:49) - row21097 - 57 - 9', 4 1/2”, 4”, 1 1/2” - Table, Exam I (part 1, part 2, part 3), Exam II (part 1, part 2, part 3)
106 (53 + M:53) - StraightPoolIU - 50 - 9', 4 7/8", 4 1/8, 1 1/4" - post
101* (59 + M:42) - 67tbird - 46 - 8', 4 1/4", 4", 1 1/2" - post
94 (57 + M:37) - BeiberLvr - ? - ? - post
91* (62 + M:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 1 1/2" - post
90 (? + M:?) - EagleEye - ? - 9', 5", 3 7/8", 1 3/8" - 2013 BU Summer School Boot Camp
89 (56 + M:33) - mamics - 31 - 9', 4 5/8", 3 13/16", 1 1/4" - post
88 (? + B:?) - DrGonzo - 47 - 9', 4.5", 4", 1.5" - post
87 (49 + B:38) - iusedtoberich - 38 [47] - 9', 5 1/8", 4 1/8", 1 1/2" - Table, Exam I, Exam II
82 (57 + B:25) - krupa - 24 - 9', 4 3/4", 3 5/8", 1 1/4" - post
77* (48 + B:29) - SeanChamp - 29 - 8', 4 1/2", 4 1/2", 1" - post
68 (35 + B:33) - icucybe - ? - 9', 4 1/2", 3 /1/2", 1 3/4" - post
68 (44 + B:24) - pleforowicz - 24 - 9', 11.7cm, 9.2cm, 3.8cm - post
63 (41 + B:22) - SamLambert - ? - 9', ? - Exams I and II
*: not on a 9' or larger table
NOTE - Other scores and videos, for official BU graduates, can be found on the BU alumni page.
This has to be beginner's luck. After watching SVB Sunday morning, I did practice the F4 and F5 to see how difficult it is. Later that afternoon, i made my first attempt. My position play was excellent but my shot making still suffers. This exam verified my concerns. I honestly suspect that my Fundamentals Exam will consistently be in the mid to high 60s, and this result was a total fluke. Nonetheless, i am DAMN proud of it.
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That's awesome. Please post your scores and table info after you take Exam II, and I'll add you to the list.
Good luck,
Dave
JC
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Bernie Sanders called and he is not pleased that there are 23% more points available in the Doctorate exam 2 than the Masters version.
The system is rigged in favor of the rich players.
Seriously, I scored more points taking the Doctorate test 2 than the masters even though the drills were supposed to be harder. Mostly because there are more points available and the skills I can do well were not affected by the so called tougher drill. But due to my lower fundamentals score it doesn't count because the pool elite are keeping that richer test to themselves.
There is going to be protests!
JC
The system is rigged in favor of the rich players.
Seriously, I scored more points taking the Doctorate test 2 than the masters even though the drills were supposed to be harder. Mostly because there are more points available and the skills I can do well were not affected by the so called tougher drill. But due to my lower fundamentals score it doesn't count because the pool elite are keeping that richer test to themselves.
There is going to be protests!
JC
JC
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You're one of those Cruz delegates down there I bet that doesn't let the citizens vote.:angry:
JC
I'm happy to announce that the $2500 BU Playing-Ability-Exam Challenge is now open for entries.
Please help spread the word, and please consider participating.
Good luck,
Dave
Please help spread the word, and please consider participating.
Good luck,
Dave
I think a year or so ago I questioned the validity of a rating system with a collection of pre-defined shots. I'm not trying to knock or anything and please take this constructively, but there's no way Dr. Dave who is merely an average player should score the same as Shane Van Boening on an ability test.
Those two players aren't even in the same solar system in regards to ability -- well, maybe Dr. Dave is in the Kuiper Belt and Shane is near Mars where the Sun is perfection. I'm not knocking because I'm right with Dr. Dave somewhere near Pluto.
It's almost like me doing a golf skills challenge and I scored what Jordan Spieth or Jason Day scored. If by chance I do, what does that say about the assessment when I have a tough time breaking 100?
Those two players aren't even in the same solar system in regards to ability -- well, maybe Dr. Dave is in the Kuiper Belt and Shane is near Mars where the Sun is perfection. I'm not knocking because I'm right with Dr. Dave somewhere near Pluto.
It's almost like me doing a golf skills challenge and I scored what Jordan Spieth or Jason Day scored. If by chance I do, what does that say about the assessment when I have a tough time breaking 100?
JC
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Look at Dave's first attempt that he admitted to. That's a better comparison. If Shane spent as much time at it as Dave you would see the gap you expect in scores. So in this regard you're right. Shooting the same shots over and over again probably isn't the most level playing field for assessing "speed". Now that Dave put up $1500 some of the under employed pros might give it fair shake. I think if that happens you will see the score discrepancy that should be there. Take the safely behind the rack drill. Shane failed a bunch on that one because it was his first go. With 20 minutes of practice he will probably get a perfect score the next time. And so on.
JC
That's my point - there's no point. If a test is setup where after some practice doing the drills you can score the same as SVB, then - why? Mastering setup shots doesn't point to ability at all nor is the score representative of one's ability. It is to SOME degree if you're only given ONE attempt "on the blind" - but that's not the case.
Hopkins Q-Skill or merely setting up a breakshot to see how many you run until a miss and doing 10-innings of that and averaging those innings -- that's an indicator of ability.
I'm gonna poke out of the thread now because I gave my 2-cents and that's all I have.