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11-18-2019, 01:39 PM

I got mine a couple weeks ago, I'll put the disclaimer that I'm terrible at pool so take what I say with a grain of salt. I've owned the Revo, Go2, CueTec and now the Defy in 12mm.

Draw is effortless, I can snap a full table draw shot on the bar box with ease, but it took some getting use to if I want to draw say a diamond or two and found myself overdrawing a lot.

Top seems to require a little more of a stroke then I'm use to. I don't know if it's because I'm use to a little more front end weight (recently stopped using a mid extension)

I'm finding that the deflection when going inside and outside is about the same as a Z2. I've run the same test that Dr. Dave ran and I think it has less deflection then the CueTec although I'm probably not near as accurate with hitting my exact spot on the ball as Dr. Dave so take that with a grain of salt. I believe it has a little less deflection then the CueTec and it runs pretty close to the Revo.

There is very little to no vibration. If you like a really soft hit this is the cue for you. I personally hate Navigator Tips, just not a fan of the feel. I switched it to a SIB Pro and there isn't a lot of feel but it moves the CB great.

So far CueTec is still my favorite. I don't know if it's because I have the most time with it or what it is, I've just preferred that over everything else so far, the Defy is 2nd on my list and may move up once I spend more time with it. Right now I'm just having fun trying the new ones and since I'm never going to be world class I have fun running through equipment and trying out the fads. The BlaK is next on my list.
  
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11-18-2019, 02:07 PM

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Are you talking about greater energy transfer, as others have described (more CB speed/spin with less stick speed)?

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11-18-2019, 06:07 PM

My shaft came in today and I was able to shoot some balls with it.

It’s really lightweight, I think because of the weight difference it causes more action from a normal stroke.

The tip is soft but feels good. No vibration, nice and smooth, and action is almost effortless.


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02-04-2020, 09:34 AM

Anyone have any updates on their first hand experience with the new McDermott Defy carbon fiber shaft? Sounds promising. Would like to try one before I commit but none available locally anytime soon.
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02-04-2020, 09:42 AM

Hands down best CF I have used. Only problem is they are back logged on filling orders, Iím ordering two more of them.


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Your avatar pic of the Marie's Golden Cue sign reminds me of the time, about 3 years ago, when a friend of mine had just purchased Marie's and started to renovate it into what is now Surge Billiards in Chicago (pic below).

During community meetings about the new place, the one thing we heard most from neighbors was "take that damned sign down!" Some people just can't take a joke, even after decades of hearing it...

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02-04-2020, 11:25 AM

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Your avatar pic of the Marie's Golden Cue sign reminds me of the time, about 3 years ago, when a friend of mine had just purchased Marie's and started to renovate it into what is now Surge Billiards in Chicago (pic below).

During community meetings about the new place, the one thing we heard most from neighbors was "take that damned sign down!" Some people just can't take a joke, even after decades of hearing it...

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02-12-2020, 10:29 PM

I agree, I shoot with a i3 and defy, both are good but price to me is the dif defy or no shaft for that matter is worth $400+?! you got that much extra in your pocket spend it on lessons!
  
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02-12-2020, 10:57 PM

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I agree, I shoot with a i3 and defy, both are good but price to me is the dif defy or no shaft for that matter is worth $400+?! you got that much extra in your pocket spend it on lessons!
OP asked for performance review not for some tightwad's economic theorys.


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02-13-2020, 02:49 AM

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Total crap. It dampens down the energy of the cue ball. I played with it for about an hour and half and was worn out and changed back
to my Jacoby Hybrids and decided not to buy the used one being offered by the original buyer. If you over hit the ball too much maybe but hits like a wet 2 x 4.

More accurately I call it the Deny rather than Defy. It controls your cue ball travel distance by subtraction. You'll have to learn to over hit the shot.


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Got my McDermott Defy CF shaft - 02-23-2020, 08:58 AM

Got my Defy CF shaft with Uni-Loc yesterday. Happened to find a company that got one in that day. Haven't played it yet, but hope to tonight. Will post feedback.

FYI, my wife got the Meucci CF shaft a few months ago, and IMHO it is exceptional. I was going to buy one until I learned about the Defy. My understanding is it's the first solid core CF shaft. I started out with McDermotts (a custom made Cobra prototype), but switched to a Lucasi Hybrid.
  
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02-23-2020, 09:22 AM

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Got my Defy CF shaft with Uni-Loc yesterday. Happened to find a company that got one in that day. Haven't played it yet, but hope to tonight. Will post feedback.

FYI, my wife got the Meucci CF shaft a few months ago, and IMHO it is exceptional. I was going to buy one until I learned about the Defy. My understanding is it's the first solid core CF shaft. I started out with McDermotts (a custom made Cobra prototype), but switched to a Lucasi Hybrid.
Where did you find one in stock? Iím looking to pick a couple more up, but need a 12mm in the McDermott qc joint.


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02-23-2020, 11:20 AM

I got to try one a few weeks ago...., I have had several CF shafts before settling on my Cynergy. I will say itís got a great hit. If I had tried it before my Cuetec. I probably would have bought one. Very crisp and firm hit. I have to give McDermott Props. They did a great job with this one.


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02-23-2020, 01:05 PM

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Total crap. It dampens down the energy of the cue ball. I played with it for about an hour and half and was worn out and changed back
to my Jacoby Hybrids and decided not to buy the used one being offered by the original buyer. If you over hit the ball too much maybe but hits like a wet 2 x 4.

More accurately I call it the Deny rather than Defy. It controls your cue ball travel distance by subtraction. You'll have to learn to over hit the shot.
Funny how your report is so opposite of the others?


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02-24-2020, 05:10 AM

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Funny how your report is so opposite of the others?
Why is it funny? People like different things. A lot of people like the cuetec . I thought it felt like cheap junk like all cuetec cueís lol but to each his own.


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