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03-15-2020, 07:40 AM

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Instead of GB, let's just say anyone that doesn't use CTE.

You're the one who made the claim about GB to begin with as a comparison. NOBODY uses GB.

So players that don't use CTE (to my knowledge) that could give most of the players you listed the 7

SVB
Wu
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Biado
Sky

The only reason I even brought it up, is because you listed these CTE players as if they've accomplished so much. When in reality, only one of them (Tyler Styer) has any relevance in professional pool. He's the only one that could give any of the players I listed above a run for their money.

No one else on your list would want any piece of the players on mine without a significant handicap.
There's a lot more to CTE than just A, B, C visuals which you apparently never learned or cared to learn. They might not be using the visuals but they are doing things connected with it that are paramount.

First of all, what happened to THIS from you? https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=317247

About your list...Every single one of those players you listed SWEEPS into their shot lines......They don’t use ghostball. None of them.

They’re all in the CTE position at ball address. What they're visualizing to get there is unknown except to them. But they are in position. This is vital.


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03-15-2020, 07:46 AM

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They’re all in the CTE position at ball address.
lol

Everything is CTE.

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03-15-2020, 07:52 AM

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Everything is CTE.

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03-15-2020, 09:01 AM

If we set up a cut shot to pocket a ball center pocket
Wouldn't all players be in identical alignment ie cue stick pointing straight at the same place just prior to Shooting regardless of aiming method ?
Assuming vertcal axis shot no spin
  
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03-15-2020, 11:28 AM

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If we set up a cut shot to pocket a ball center pocket
Wouldn't all players be in identical alignment ie cue stick pointing straight at the same place just prior to Shooting regardless of aiming method ?
Assuming vertcal axis shot no spin

NO. Which is why there's a big difference between a SL 2 and SL 7 in the APA who "think" they're in the identical correct alignment for making the shot.

They aren't which is why they miss and have the ranking they do.


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03-15-2020, 01:23 PM

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NO. Which is why there's a big difference between a SL 2 and SL 7 in the APA who "think" they're in the identical correct alignment for making the shot.

They aren't which is why they miss and have the ranking they do.
It wasn't clear in his post, but I think bbb may have also meant for the shot to be made.

Meaning if 100 players all got down on the exact same shot and made the ball.

Wouldn't their sticks point in the same direction prior to pulling the trigger?

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03-15-2020, 01:44 PM

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NO. Which is why there's a big difference between a SL 2 and SL 7 in the APA who "think" they're in the identical correct alignment for making the shot.

They aren't which is why they miss and have the ranking they do.
I am sorry I should’ve been more precise
Assuming everyone is in position to make the shot wouldn’t they all end up in the same position regardless if they swept and pivoted or step straight into the line ?
  
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03-15-2020, 01:49 PM

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It wasn't clear in his post, but I think bbb may have also meant for the shot to be made.

Meaning if 100 players all got down on the exact same shot and made the ball.

Wouldn't their sticks point in the same direction prior to pulling the trigger?

I think the answer would be yes.
In a perfect world of pro pool players and excellent amateur players I would also venture to say yes.

But what separates the makes from the misses is how to get to that place on CCB to the impact place on the OB when they collide. Now we're into another phase which is quality and accuracy of the stroke.

What will be the success rate between pros, good amateurs, and APA 3, 4, & 5?


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03-15-2020, 01:56 PM

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I am sorry I should’ve been more precise
Assuming everyone is in position to make the shot wouldn’t they all end up in the same position regardless if they swept and pivoted or step straight into the line ?
If they all did it perfectly with each of their aiming systems, probably so.

It all depends on how skilled they are with their aiming method. I'm not against any aiming system. I've used almost all of them over 30 years. Some more dependable and better than others. It depends on our own set of eyes and what we see best to get there.


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03-15-2020, 02:08 PM

Here's something for you to think about. It doesn't have to do with CTE or any other system.

This is going to be pretty simple but it can also be done with more acute cut angles.

Let's say the OB is even with the side pocket and the CB is two diamonds away back toward the head side. The balls are lined up straight to each other to impact the OB halfway between the pocket and first diamond on the foot rail.

If I line up center CB to dead center of the OB can I easily make the OB in the corner pocket without standing back up to get a straight line to the contact point?

What would I have to do to make it?


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03-15-2020, 04:30 PM

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There's a lot more to CTE than just A, B, C visuals which you apparently never learned or cared to learn. They might not be using the visuals but they are doing things connected with it that are paramount.
First of all, what happened to THIS from you? https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=317247
About your list...Every single one of those players you listed SWEEPS into their shot lines......They don’t use ghostball. None of them.
They’re all in the CTE position at ball address. What they're visualizing to get there is unknown except to them. But they are in position. This is vital.
Spiderman,
I recently heard that Fedor Gorst, another great Pro hitter, told another pro that he also sweeps into his shots.
I'm going to hunt down some of his games and throw the slow motion on him and see if he's as sly with it as Aranas.
You will get the report in a P.M. since the 'outfit' here doesn't understand or believe anything from me and will trash it endlessly. (I didn't know until last week that they can still see my posts even when I have them on "ignore"). You know, when you block someone on that "Facebook" place they no longer get to see anything you post.
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03-15-2020, 04:36 PM

Soon, every pro will have invisible sweeps and pivots .
Gotta love the bullsh8.

I see Fedora tilting his head often to see the contact point.
Pfft!

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Here's something for you to think about. It doesn't have to do with CTE or any other system.

This is going to be pretty simple but it can also be done with more acute cut angles.

Let's say the OB is even with the side pocket and the CB is two diamonds away back toward the head side. The balls are lined up straight to each other to impact the OB halfway between the pocket and first diamond on the foot rail.

If I line up center CB to dead center of the OB can I easily make the OB in the corner pocket without standing back up to get a straight line to the contact point?

What would I have to do to make it?
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Spiderman,
I recently heard that Fedor Gorst, another great Pro hitter, told another pro that he also sweeps into his shots.
I'm going to hunt down some of his games and throw the slow motion on him and see if he's as sly with it as Aranas.
Funny how when I say that a pro does this or that I can't possibly know what is going on in his head but when you guys hear something about sweeps suddenly they must be using CTE. I have news for you. Even I sweep into my shots -- but it has absolutely nothing to do with CTE.


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Funny how when I say that a pro does this or that I can't possibly know what is going on in his head but when you guys hear something about sweeps suddenly they must be using CTE. I have news for you. Even I sweep into my shots -- but it has absolutely nothing to do with CTE.
The bridge hand is the opposite hand.
You can't bridge from the shooting hand side.
Unless you're shooting one handed.
Sweeps, Pfft!
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