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07-22-2020, 08:45 PM

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I am thinking about buying this cue. Is it a good reflection of your typical Mezz cue? People have said Mezz might be one of the top production cues out there nowadays, along with Schon.

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07-23-2020, 06:56 AM

You should look around on the mezz USA site, it's likely you can get a cue with the HP 2 or expro shaft for for the less than the BW cue.


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07-23-2020, 07:40 AM

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Mezz Cues are made in Japan, not China!
I think garczar was referring to the fact that Lucasi is made in China.

I've also been curious about newer cues and technology. I just bought a Mezz cue with a WX700 shaft. It should arrive today. I will provide some feedback on it soon.

While I do agree that most of the designs are very traditional, I bought the ZZ32, which has points that reminds me of a fox's tail. The butt sleeve is also a bit more interesting than others. I figured I'd give it a test drive and I can always return within 60 days if I don't find it that interesting.

My main player for quite some time has been a Schon + predator 314 (cat) / triangle tip.

I bought a Jacoby EH Ultra and it hits well. A bit fuller hit than my 314. Longer taper. It feels like it's 12.75 for about 20". Good vibration and feedback. Pretty good spin. Tip is stock (Everest) and hasn't mushroomed or glazed yet. It's probably too thick for my liking, but I haven't gotten around to grinding it down a few mm. I'm not as consistent with it yet, so it stays in the bag most of the time. Sometimes when I was 2' of draw I get 4', other times I get 3". It's annoying. I have much better control with the 314.

I also bought a Predator that came with a 314-3 and a Vantage, to see how those hit. I've been pretty satisfied with the action and cue ball control on my existing setup, but my gear is admittedly quite old.

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07-23-2020, 08:03 AM

BigFish23,
Please let us know what you think of that Mezz when it arrives today!

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07-23-2020, 08:11 AM

I can't recommend Mezz cues enough! Simply the best cues out there in my humble opinion!


" You can chalk that cue as much as you want, but if you don't chalk your mind you will still miscue" - Puncho

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07-23-2020, 10:51 AM

Mezz cues fit and finish destroys most other cues except for maybe top custom makers that sell plain jane cues for over a thousand and anything with inlay over 2k. You can buy a plain jane mezz ec9 or 7 for around 500$ and it will be basically flawless
  
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07-23-2020, 10:56 AM

I have two mezz that I recently bought brand new. Neither has a flaw. Except for maybe a tiny needle tip blemish in the clear. That aren't even visible unless you look in certain light at a perfect angle....and have good eyes or magnification .....and mezz Exceed line of cues....set a standard that most cue makes that sell 5k cues dream about....from what I've seen
  
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07-23-2020, 01:24 PM

So........i take it that most posters on here feel that this Mezz ZZ-36 cue gets a big thumbs up!

Correct?


Playing Cue: Chad Carter Custom - Bloodwood & Holly
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07-23-2020, 01:47 PM

The UPS guy just came by. After a few racks, color me impressed.

The cue feels very balanced. I think part of it is due to the joint, which is not stainless steel. It's the only cue I play with regularly that doesn't have an SS joint. Well, I have a PureX for banging around at the bar, but that doesn't really count.

This cue hits solid. There's no other way to describe it. The taper is slightly stronger than what I'm used to on the 314 (original). But not cumbersome. I mostly use a closed bridge and have smaller or medium hands/fingers. I can feel the taper grow, but it doesn't affect my follow through.

Cue is 19oz, but feels lighter. Balance point is 19.5". 0.840" at joint, 1.25" at butt.

The only thing that I don't like right off is the wrap. It's wound tight and waxed or something. It feels almost like nylon. I used to have a Huebler a long time ago that had a nylon wrap. This reminds me of that feeling. If I keep it, I'll likely have it re-wrapped.

My Kikel is also very tight wrap and almost feels like silk in the hands. Very smooth, but not nylon-y (if that's a word). One of my Schons has a very tight wrap, but again, feels more like cotton thread than nylon, and the other Schon has a slightly wider diameter Irish linen thread, so it feels more cord wound.

But, getting back to the hit. Very solid, good feedback, nice vibration damping, and good sound. This is my first time with a WX700 shaft, so it could be mostly due to the shaft. I may try the shaft on a Schon, but I've read that you will mushroom the plastic insert in the shaft and then it won't fit on the Mezz butt as tight. So, maybe I won't do that.

As for aiming and such, I tried some thin cuts and long cuts with inside draw, and they all reacted close to what I'm used to. So no adjustments were needed.

I can't really judge action after 15-20 shots. However, the draw is not as immediate as with my 314. But the tip is new, I'm not really stroking the same, and the sample size is pretty small.

I need to get several hours in to see how cue ball control is compared to my 314, but after 15-20 balls, I'm really stoked. I was thinking I'd try it and return if I didn't like, but I have a feeling that this one will find it's way to the top of the play cycle.
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Nice clean, simple wand right there.
  
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07-23-2020, 03:17 PM

IMO, Mezz are made as well or better than any production cue and much better than many custom cues.
  
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07-23-2020, 03:22 PM

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IMO, Mezz are made as well or better than any production cue and much better than many custom cues.
After owning a couple i'd probably never consider a different cue. I don't know of any other maker that offers more for the $$, especially in that $5-600 range.
  
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07-29-2020, 08:07 AM

I ordered this cue, the Mezz ZZ-36. Getting it from Manning Cues. Along with a 3x5 case and some spots.

Hope it has a nice hit. Heath says it has the Kamui Tan Original Soft tip. If i dont like the tip i can have it changed over to a Pressed Elkmaster.

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07-29-2020, 08:16 AM

I love my Mezz PB Kai. The playing shaft? Not so much. But I did want to try the ignite shaft too.


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07-29-2020, 10:12 PM

Mezz makes one of the best production cues in my opinion. Fit and finish has always been top notch. Mezz cues tend to have a stiffer shaft taper which I feel allows for more energy transfer. I have tested the Ignite and really enjoyed the powerful crisp hit. While some of their production models may look "boring", they offer a wide variety of designs. I personally own the Mezz MI-3 (Mika Immonen Model) and I think it's a stunning cue with the ebony, turquoise and paua shells.

Here is the Mezz Ignite review I did awhile back for those interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ4m-sejzC4&t=20s

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