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08-03-2020, 09:01 AM

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I feel that if I tell the guy who made it, he'd feel offended, maybe this is the only way he know how to do it.

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Is the guy a table installer for a living? Or just a buddy who helped you out and never did a table before? If he does this on anyone else's table, he will cause all their balls to be ruined as well. He really needs to know he is messing up, big time. Now for example, you are out a brand new set of $300 balls. And you still have to fix the table. The next table he does will have the same problem, and that owner will have ruined balls.
  
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08-03-2020, 09:07 AM

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Is the guy a table installer for a living? Or just a buddy who helped you out and never did a table before? If he does this on anyone else's table, he will cause all their balls to be ruined as well. He really needs to know he is messing up, big time. Now for example, you are out a brand new set of $300 balls. And you still have to fix the table. The next table he does will have the same problem, and that owner will have ruined balls.
I would encourage him to join Azb immediately and comment here. Not here, here. This is my space to say something.


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08-03-2020, 09:08 AM

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Probably one of the pockets there is an exposed screw or something.
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08-03-2020, 09:09 AM

Brads used to hold pocket boot in place will damage the balls





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08-03-2020, 11:46 AM

I own an A E Schmidt. I believe originally when new it had plastic screws in the pockets but by the time I bought it there were metal screws. I removed all the screws and the pockets just sit there loose. Once in a while a ball will rattle and not drop due to the pockets but it's better than having cuts in the balls.
  
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08-03-2020, 12:44 PM

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... I feel that if I tell the guy who made it, he'd feel offended, maybe this is the only way he know how to do it. ...
Well, it depends on how you tell him. You could first show him the balls and ask what might be causing that. Then when he doesn't mention the nails sticking out, point them out to him. Then show him how much the balls cost and ask him if he would be willing to pay for a replacement set and he can have the old ones.

If that's the only way he knows, he shouldn't be doing tables.


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08-03-2020, 01:41 PM

I found out that one of the pockets has a nail that is visibly sticking out, and I mean waaaay out.

So just for the time being, as I want to play, I hit it with a hammer and now its inside the rubber just like the other nails, I also made sure that the other nails are inside the rubber deeply.

Now I'll just find GC screws and find another technician to remove all the nails then insert the actual screws where GC designed them to be.

But for now, you guys think I can play? as long as the nails are deep in?
  
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08-03-2020, 01:48 PM

No. All the balls will be ruined in a few weeks.

Maybe put electrical tape over them until you fix it for real.
  
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08-03-2020, 02:05 PM

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I found out that one of the pockets has a nail that is visibly sticking out, and I mean waaaay out.

So just for the time being, as I want to play, I hit it with a hammer and now its inside the rubber just like the other nails, I also made sure that the other nails are inside the rubber deeply.

Now I'll just find GC screws and find another technician to remove all the nails then insert the actual screws where GC designed them to be.

But for now, you guys think I can play? as long as the nails are deep in?
There is no need for any of the nails/tacks as long as you are using the two screws that go in the two recessed holes for each pocket liner. To be safe, remove ALL the small nails/tacks that are not supposed to be there.
  
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There is no need for any of the nails/tacks as long as you are using the two screws that go in the two recessed holes for each pocket liner. To be safe, remove ALL the small nails/tacks that are not supposed to be there.
Ok will do, any table mechanic here that know the name/size of the screw that goes in there, I'm going to go by myself to a screw store whatever these places is called, they know nothing about pool or table but ofcourse they will know the name/size of that specific screw for GC4, anyone know that information? a picture would help, i'd show the guy in the store.
  
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08-05-2020, 06:24 AM

Just an update!

I've done what you guys recommended, thank you for helping me through this, we discovered the issue and now I've fixed it.

Ofcourse not me, I was able to find a guy who know the screws for GCs he now inserted all the GC screw in its intended location then removed all the damn nails.

good thing that I only got 3 scratches total before all of my balls get ruined
  
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Just an update!

I've done what you guys recommended, thank you for helping me through this, we discovered the issue and now I've fixed it.

Ofcourse not me, I was able to find a guy who know the screws for GCs he now inserted all the GC screw in its intended location then removed all the damn nails.

good thing that I only got 3 scratches total before all of my balls get ruined
Good work. I did not realize from your pictures the socket head cap screws were never there.

So what about the person that put your table together? Any comment on that? Does he assemble tables for customers, or was he a friend of yours just helping out? Did you let him know his error so he won't make the same mistake?
  
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Good work. I did not realize from your pictures the socket head cap screws were never there.

So what about the person that put your table together? Any comment on that? Does he assemble tables for customers, or was he a friend of yours just helping out? Did you let him know his error so he won't make the same mistake?
Ye the screws werent there at all, thats why the guy initially improvised by using his own nails with a hammer as you can see in the picture he put one or two to the right, and one or two to the left of pocket, but this is bad because if I hit balls hard and with English there's a chance the ball would hit that nail even if its inside the rubber, still the rubber can compress and the balls will be scratches just like the picture.

I talked to the guy, and he says that since I bought the table used from the 3rd party (Not him), he said he will assemble the GC as provided by that 3rd party, and he says the 3rd party did not give him these screws so he had to improvise and use nails.
  
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I talked to the guy, and he says that since I bought the table used from the 3rd party (Not him), he said he will assemble the GC as provided by that 3rd party, and he says the 3rd party did not give him these screws so he had to improvise and use nails.
Unacceptable! That is shoddy work, and the person takes no pride in their work.

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08-05-2020, 07:56 AM

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Unacceptable! That is shoddy work, and the person takes no pride in their work.
At a minimum, the customer should be informed of any non-standard assembly needs...preferably before the work is done.


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