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Draw Shot Question - 11-08-2018, 08:56 AM

I was breaking some racks in my basement yesterday and had this shot. I wanted to go from the 1B to the 2B. The 5B was blocking the inside english route so I tried to hit it with a little low left. But I hit it too hard and ended up where the red CB is, just behind the 3B and 8B. Trust me when I say the 5B blocked the inside english route. And the 1B was only off the rail about an inch or so.

My question here is......to hit this ball with low left you really need to dig into the CB and put some OOMPH on it or else you wont get good results. If you want the CB to come back close to the starting point you need to really dig into it, hit it a little harder. I did, but apparently hit it way too hard and it went way too far and ended up where the red CB is now.

How do you guys handle this shot? Does it just require a finesse type low left stroke?

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11-08-2018, 09:46 AM

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I was breaking some racks in my basement yesterday and had this shot. I wanted to go from the 1B to the 2B. The 7B was blocking the inside english route so I tried to hit it with a little low left. But I hit it too hard and ended up where the red CB is, just behind the 3B and 8B. Trust me when I say the 5B blocked the inside english route. And the 1B was only off the rail about an inch or so.

My question here is......to hit this ball with low left you really need to dig into the CB and put some OOMPH on it or else you wont get good results. If you want the CB to come back close to the starting point you need to really dig into it, hit it a little harder. I did, but apparently hit it way too hard and it went way too far and ended up where the red CB is now.

How do you guys handle this shot? Does it just require a finesse type low left stroke?

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Based solely on the diagram i wouldn't use much left at all. Medium speed draw should put you on the 2ball. Maybe a tiny bit of left but not much. To get to that rd CB spot you must have really dug in with low left.
  
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I would not describe this as a finesse shot. You just have to hit it softer. Try more left than draw so that you are stunning off the object ball. That is more effective on some tables.


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11-09-2018, 06:29 AM

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I was breaking some racks in my basement yesterday and had this shot. I wanted to go from the 1B to the 2B. The 5B was blocking the inside english route so I tried to hit it with a little low left. But I hit it too hard and ended up where the red CB is, just behind the 3B and 8B. Trust me when I say the 5B blocked the inside english route. And the 1B was only off the rail about an inch or so.

My question here is......to hit this ball with low left you really need to dig into the CB and put some OOMPH on it or else you wont get good results. If you want the CB to come back close to the starting point you need to really dig into it, hit it a little harder. I did, but apparently hit it way too hard and it went way too far and ended up where the red CB is now.

How do you guys handle this shot? Does it just require a finesse type low left stroke?

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11-09-2018, 08:46 AM

I had a similar situation in a tournament. This is a tough shot because of the 1 being so close to the rail and you have to bring the cb back below the side pocket. If you don't use enough backspin, you're in danger of scratching in the side. But then there's the issue of too much speed with backspin.

In a way, this can be looked at as a type of finesse shot in that the solution I used was a modified kill stroke. I used lots of low left but with a modified kill stroke speed to allow some of the backspin to wear off before impact with the ob. The left spin brings it across the table and slightly down table towards the side pocket and the remaining backspin finishes the job bringing it below the side to avoid the scratch and control the speed.

This is what players call a feel shot. It's tough to measure. You can only feel it. You can't shoot this one with a tight grip.


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I had a similar situation in a tournament. This is a tough shot because of the 1 being so close to the rail and you have to bring the cb back below the side pocket. If you don't use enough backspin, you're in danger of scratching in the side. But then there's the issue of too much speed with backspin.

In a way, this can be looked at as a type of finesse shot in that the solution I used was a modified kill stroke. I used lots of low left but with a modified kill stroke speed to allow some of the backspin to wear off before impact with the ob. The left spin brings it across the table and slightly down table towards the side pocket and the remaining backspin finishes the job bringing it below the side to avoid the scratch and control the speed.

This is what players call a feel shot. It's tough to measure. You can only feel it. You can't shoot this one with a tight grip.
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