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06-26-2014, 01:37 PM

This is a cue I received from Eddie a few weeks ago and the points are razor sharp.



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06-26-2014, 05:27 PM

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You have not messaged me for a price on a cue like this so you can't comment on prices
Ah, but I have messaged you for prices on some of your other cues. So yes I have an estimate what this cost. I might even be on the low end. But I can guarantee that I won't ever own a stacked veneer cue likes yours. Not that it's ugly, but I personally find it to be the lazy way to do veneers, even if it takes more time. I don't find the look to be clean.
  
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06-26-2014, 05:30 PM

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Ah, but I have messaged you for prices on some of your other cues. So yes I have an estimate what this cost. I might even be on the low end. But I can guarantee that I won't ever own a stacked veneer cue likes yours. Not that it's ugly, but I personally find it to be the lazy way to do veneers, even if it takes more time. I don't find the look to be clean.
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06-26-2014, 05:32 PM

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Just because you may wait more for glue to dry does not mean the veneers are harder to do. Go troll elsewhere.
  
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06-26-2014, 05:45 PM

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Just because you may wait more for glue to dry does not mean the veneers are harder to do. Go troll elsewhere.
Browse my profile.

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Do those things before you call someone a troll. If you don't, you risk coming off quite ignorant.


Back on topic... If you don't like stacked veneers, that is fine. However, don't criticize a new cue maker who uses this technique when this is how his mentors taught him. This technique is good enough for local So Cal makers, with great reputations, like Kent Davis and Ariel Carmeli. It is also good enough for world famous makers, like Southwest. It's also good enough for many others.

If you don't like the technique, then say that... but don't come into a thread and say that the, obviously sharp, points on a particular cue aren't sharp because your definition of a "sharp point" is different than what most others think.

If there is someone who is coming off as a troll in this thread, I'm confident that it's not me.


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06-26-2014, 05:55 PM

Nice design looks great not to busy just right i hope u did well with it
  
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06-26-2014, 06:49 PM

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Browse my profile.

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Do those things before you call someone a troll. If you don't, you risk coming off quite ignorant.


Back on topic... If you don't like stacked veneers, that is fine. However, don't criticize a new cue maker who uses this technique when this is how his mentors taught him. This technique is good enough for local So Cal makers, with great reputations, like Kent Davis and Ariel Carmeli. It is also good enough for world famous makers, like Southwest. It's also good enough for many others.

If you don't like the technique, then say that... but don't come into a thread and say that the, obviously sharp, points on a particular cue aren't sharp because your definition of a "sharp point" is different than what most others think.

If there is someone who is coming off as a troll in this thread, I'm confident that it's not me.


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I think he didnt like the line on the grey/silver veneer
I wouldnt be happy with that either
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06-26-2014, 08:38 PM

I normally would not make a comment, but this thread needs some clarity. overlapping veneers are done by more than half the cuemakers making cues today. Part of the reason we do that usually there is not enough room in the shop for a table saw or if there is no knowledge of how to set up the machine properly(build a veneer splitter-aquire the proper saw blade to do the job). Secondly, once the first saw is set up a second saw may be required to square point wood. The reason you would have 2 saws is so you don`t break down your set-up once it is perfect. This is the reason Ginacue and Blackboar and Tad have more than 10 lathes in each of their shops. Also, Richard Black, Bill Stroud and many other older hall of fame cuemakers mitered their veneers and did not always the best job. Would you buy their cues because the points are supposedly sharp, but there is a black line down the middle.
Another thing to remember is that all the equipment costs a lot of money and he may not have made enough to upgrade his machinery yet, so why not say nice cue, but i wish it had mitered veneers instead of overlap. Saying it the way you did makes you sound like a know-it all and a dick.
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06-27-2014, 07:51 AM

The decals look as good as anything I've seen from China.


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06-27-2014, 08:17 AM

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, so why not say nice cue, but i wish it had mitered veneers instead of overlap.
Because when he introduced himself and his cues the prices I got in a PM from Eddie gave me the indication that he is doing a certain level of work. Now that I've seen better pictures of the points of his cues, I personally don't see that level of work. Does that mean the cue is constructed poorly, not in the slightest. Am I allowed to say that I don't like the way he does something, yes I am. People do it all the time for other makers, him being young and newer does not excuse him from critiques. I can go to a few other makers and get sharp mitered veneers for less than half of what Eddie charges. All even points too. Your excuse that Eddie may not have the equipment means nothing when there are makers out there doing them with less than what Eddie has. I just don't understand the short cuts people take in building cues. Sure he may have perfected that stacked way, but in my opinion, it's a less than desirable look for the overall aspect of the cue.
  
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Pretty Cue - 06-27-2014, 08:25 AM

Very nice.
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06-27-2014, 08:38 AM

You are entitled to your opinion, it's just bad etiquette to knock someones thread like this. Style is subjective, so it seems like such a little thing to blow out of proportion. The buyer is happy,and that's what matters. As someone pointed out earlier, you could have left it at, "Nice looking cue, although I prefer mitered veneer points.".

Here, I'll give it a try: What a nice looking cue Eddie. Great work! I'm not a huge fan of mother of pearl, but wow, your design is really well executed.

It's that easy.

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