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09-17-2019, 05:05 PM

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Do you believe that constant never ending economic growth is sustainable?

**Yes, the pie can be ever expanding. Just like the universe. .
Impossible earthly resources are finite


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Do you believe the people working to create that growth do NOT deserve a fair slice of the Pie?

**Which people are you talking about? The people that create that growth, are the people who take great risk. An employee of a company takes zero risk generally speaking.
everybody takes risks every minute of everyday.. you put yourself at risk of death just driving to work....

look... capitalism works for most things.. however there are some things like medical care, prisons, pharmaceuticals, police, fire and rescue, that should be removed from the profit motive all things you call 911 for..

plus Banks ... remove the federal reserve all together and go back to constitutional requirements that Uncle Sam coins the money

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Do you believe that an ever shrinking elitist class with unimaginable wealth control more and more while working people get less and less per year compared to the growth they create?

**Again, the working people do not create the growth. The ideas and innovation and risk taking people who employ the working people create the growth.
so in a "Fair Deal" a Union brokers the deals between capital and labor on equal footing both with power... without unions the worker is quickly reduced to company script in the company store.



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Do you think this is just?

**Of course it is. If you as a person have no more worth to offer than being able to do a job wherever, then you are subject to the market price to pay you for that job. If however, you have more to offer, innovation, better ideas and willing to take the risk, you will be rewarded if you are right in your endeavors. I have a friend who is on the edge of buying a franchise. Is he willing to take the risk, can he do it, what if he fails? If he fails he loses huge, hundreds of thousands. Are the employees in it for anything even close? F no! They lose nothing, other than an hourly job.
for the most part I agree with this per the exceptions noted above.




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Do you believe in cleaning up your messes?

**?What are you 4.
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Do you believe your ability to shoot someone is more important than their ability to receive medical care for their wounds?

**I believe my God given right to defend myself is just. Any hospital in this country will treat anyone with emergency wounds regardless of means to pay. You get the DA award for that stupid ass question.
who pays?


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Do you know of Theodore Roosevelt?

**Yes, and I know that liberals are doing everything they can to destroy this country's history and heritage in the name of globalism and socialism.[/QUOTE


Like most libs, you lack basic understanding of economics, history and what the constitution means to All Americans.
now the insults and deflections start...

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09-17-2019, 05:34 PM

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who pays?



LOL!

You see, before you shoot someone, they need to see if you have the proper permit/license for the weapon, and then you have to check and see what their health care coverage is. Only then can you decide how the matter is handled.

You questions are idiocy manifest.

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09-17-2019, 05:40 PM

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LOL!

You see, before you shoot someone, they need to see if you have the proper permit/license for the weapon, and then you have to check and see what their health care coverage is. Only then can you decide how the matter is handled.

You questions are idiocy manifest.

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I expected more from you... cherry picking a single 2 word quote to add insult and deflection..... thats UGOTNUTTIN's strategy.

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09-17-2019, 05:44 PM

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the beliefs you are ridiculing are taken directly from Teddy Roosevelt's "Trust Busting" and "Square Deal" with the exception of the medical care as a right question an issue which did not exist then.

I share the core beliefs of a man on Mount Fuc*ing Rushmore.. and always have....I didn't change in a world with personalized propaganda.. I still believe in the same ideals I did 30 years ago....

you all have been piloted to the fringe right and now call Teddy Roosevelt and ME un American...

Think about This he was a republican...that's why the big money bought the republicans and set in motion the chain of events that would be called the great depression.. and why Roosevelt left the party and ran as a Bull Moose....

I'm Bull Moose Party member.. I am not now nor will I ever be a communist...
The biggest cause of the " Great Depression " was the World War and the ornate structure of debt it put in place internationally. European powers spent themselves into bankruptcy trying to win the war.

How does this apply to TR? TR was a war monger. He had no idea how bloody World War One would become.

As European farmers were conscripted to fight in the war, agricultural production stalled in Europe.

American farmers took out loans and planted extra acreage as the cost of produce went through the roof.

After the war as the European farmers came back on line, the US farmers that had mortgaged themselves to the hilt, had their loans called.

The regional banks who held the paper on US agricultural land, started to go under. One of the big challenges in the Great Depression was the deflation of agricultural produce. While folks were starving the FDR administration had millions of hogs slaughtered and buried, with the idea such activity would make hog futures rise.

TR was also a huge booster of eugenics like Hitler. The war debt was never repaid by Europeans countries to the US after World War One.

Wilson ran on a peace ticket and got us into World War One. It was a fiasco.
  
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09-17-2019, 05:52 PM

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The biggest cause of the " Great Depression " was the World War and the ornate structure of debt it put in place internationally. European powers spent themselves into bankruptcy trying to win the war.

How does this apply to TR? TR was a war monger. He had no idea how bloody World War One would become.

As European farmers were conscripted to fight in the war, agricultural production stalled in Europe.

American farmers took out loans and planted extra acreage as the cost of produce went through the roof.

After the war as the European farmers came back on line, the US farmers that had mortgaged themselves to the hilt, had their loans called.

The regional banks who held the paper on US agricultural land, started to go under. One of the big challenges in the Great Depression was the deflation of agricultural produce. While folks were starving the FDR administration had millions of hogs slaughtered and buried, with the idea such activity would make hog futures rise.

TR was also a huge booster of eugenics like Hitler. The war debt was never repaid by Europeans countries to the US after World War One.

Wilson ran on a peace ticket and got us into World War One. It was a fiasco.
you conveniently left out the influence of the trusts the big money... the ones who didn't suffer....

Modern Trumpists would remove all regulations that were put in place to prevent such catastophe and have ... ever heard of Glass Steagall??? Please..

you still haven't honestly answered simple yes or no questions


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09-17-2019, 06:03 PM

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I expected more from you... cherry picking a single 2 word quote to add insult and deflection..... thats UGOTNUTTIN's strategy.

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09-17-2019, 06:09 PM

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I expected more from you... cherry picking a single 2 word quote to add insult and deflection..... thats UGOTNUTTIN's strategy.

weak sauce doc
I could expertly pick apart the whole amateurish thing. My wife is in the ER. I am dealing with that. So I have to just take the head shot and take down your BS.

It's a matter of time and allocating resources.

I am sure you don't understand. But keep trying!

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you conveniently left out the influence of the trusts the big money... the ones who didn't suffer....

Modern Trumpists would remove all regulations that were put in place to prevent such catastophe and have ... ever heard of Glass Steagall??? Please..

you still haven't honestly answered simple yes or no questions
I may be slipping, but I believe it was Billy Jeff Clinton who repealed Glass Steagall, or at least the provisions of it, that allowed Pandora's box to be opened by the large "investment banks." You may want to once again re-think which "team" keeps drilling the U.S. middle class in the two hole.


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09-17-2019, 06:21 PM

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Here is a question for you. What if the government required every company to pay their employees 50k a year, regardless of qualifications or skill level. From janitors to ceoc's, everyone got paid equally. 50k should be plenty to live on, everyone would be well fed and clothed, the government will handle all medical.

Any profits or earnings over 50k automatically went to the government. Sounds awesome, right? Certainly sounds fair and just, doesn't it?
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you conveniently left out the influence of the trusts the big money... the ones who didn't suffer....

Modern Trumpists would remove all regulations that were put in place to prevent such catastophe and have ... ever heard of Glass Steagall??? Please..

you still haven't honestly answered simple yes or no questions
The idea that your questions can be answered with a simple yes or no makes you look like a simpleton.

The point man for the removal of GS was Robert Rubin secretary of the treasury in the Clinton administration. Also senator graham on the Rep side.

Bob Rubin got rid of GS because of the travelers insurance and Citibank merger that violated GS. Guess where Bob Rubin ended up? Vice Chairman of the board of Citigroup which had to be bailed out by the tax payer to the tune of 45 billion.

Dude you are being had.
  
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I may be slipping, but I believe it was Billy Jeff Clinton who repealed Glass Steagall, or at least the provisions of it, that allowed Pandora's box to be opened by the large "investment banks." You may want to once again re-think which "team" keeps drilling the U.S. middle class in the two hole.
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The idea that your questions can be answered with a simple yes or no makes you look like a simpleton.

The point man for the removal of GS was Robert Rubin secretary of the treasury in the Clinton administration. Also senator graham on the Rep side.

Bob Rubin got rid of GS because of the travelers insurance and Citibank merger that violated GS. Guess where Bob Rubin ended up? Vice Chairman of the board of Citigroup which had to be bailed out by the tax payer to the tune of 45 billion.

Dude you are being had.
wait you totally agree with me... and I'm being had?? how so?


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I could expertly pick apart the whole amateurish thing. My wife is in the ER. I am dealing with that. So I have to just take the head shot and take down your BS.

It's a matter of time and allocating resources.

I am sure you don't understand. But keep trying!

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straight up question .. the way things are right now.. who pays... pick a mass shooting I don't care which. who picks up the tab for that medical care under the current system?


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straight up question .. the way things are right now.. who pays... pick a mass shooting I don't care which. who picks up the tab for that medical care under the current system?
Who picks up the tab for illegals that drive around without auto insurance and injure and kill other drivers?

It’s a much bigger problem than mass shootings.




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Who picks up the tab for illegals that drive around without auto insurance and injure and kill other drivers?

It’s a much bigger problem than mass shootings.
well #1 no it's not... #2 way to come from left field with a subject change because you are out of your depth...

for what it's worth I believe in secure borders.. but you need to do all of it or none of it.. and walls aren't the answer.. google Maginot Line


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