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Once all the Hallucinogens are removed, what's it really all about?
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08-12-2019, 06:34 PM

Unsubstantiated health claims.

Little clinical research.

If you're into diarrhea and insomnia, give it a try.
But cannot substantiate this as I have done no clinical research.


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08-12-2019, 06:38 PM

Snake oil, nothing more.


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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08-12-2019, 07:27 PM

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Once all the Hallucinogens are removed, what's it really all about?
Removed?

It is an unregulated industry.

If you are in a position where you might be tested, do not rely on them "removing" anything.

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Snake oil, nothing more.
I can't speak to every one of the millions of CBD items out there but I reluctantly used an oil that my sister has been asking me to try for my frozen shoulder and it reduced a good portion of the idle pain I was having.

It worked a million times better than icy hot and thera-gesic. It also helped on a heel split I got from super dry skin. Lubriderm wasn't really helping.

Honestly I still believe that most of this stuff is hippie mumbo jumbo with zero truth to it but I've gone back to this oil more than a few times over the last 6 months and its helped.

On a side note that same oil did a great job breaking in a guitar neck on a relic job I just finished. Really did a great job simulating body oil on maple. So bonus points.

About a year ago I tried oral drops for a week for nausea and it didn't do shit. So maybe some products are better than others.
  
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08-12-2019, 07:35 PM

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So maybe some products are better than others.
Depends on their marketing.


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08-13-2019, 06:39 AM

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I can't speak to every one of the millions of CBD items out there but I reluctantly used an oil that my sister has been asking me to try for my frozen shoulder and it reduced a good portion of the idle pain I was having.

It worked a million times better than icy hot and thera-gesic. It also helped on a heel split I got from super dry skin. Lubriderm wasn't really helping.

Honestly I still believe that most of this stuff is hippie mumbo jumbo with zero truth to it but I've gone back to this oil more than a few times over the last 6 months and its helped.

On a side note that same oil did a great job breaking in a guitar neck on a relic job I just finished. Really did a great job simulating body oil on maple. So bonus points.

About a year ago I tried oral drops for a week for nausea and it didn't do shit. So maybe some products are better than others.
Thanks for the input. Glad to know it did someone some good. Everything else I was told leaned more toward the snake oil logic. I hope all is well your way!


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I was skeptical and also viewed CBD oil as snake oil. I have non diabetic neuropathy on the bottoms of my feet. I decided to get a half ounce bottle. Mixing it with hand lotion as the carrier, I can definitely feel the relief. I went to podiatrist, Physical therapy, neurologist, was put on Gabapentin which I have now stopped. I have an aloe vera plant in the back yard and thought that if it is good for burns I might try mixing it with my blend. I only started with the aloe vera addition yesterday and I already feel relief from the burning. The drug gabapentin seemed to actually make the burning worse. I cut and will paste a few paragraphs from the company I use. One has to be careful and make sure product is lab tested for toxins.

Is your CBD oil a whole plant extract, synthetic, or an isolate?

We would never sacrifice quality by providing a synthetic CBD or CBD isolate blend. We use a whole plant extract that is rich in cannabinoids, terpenes, and other beneficial oils. The Hadassah Medical School at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem sought to compare the effectiveness of a completely purified CBD extract versus a full-spectrum extract of cannabis flowers containing large quantities of CBD. The conclusion of the study was that the whole plant extract, which contained a large percentage of CBD but also contained traces of the other cannabinoids, proved far more effective than CBD-only solutions in alleviating inflammation and pain sensation.

What other cannabinoids are in your CBD oil?

Our full-spectrum CBD oil contains high concentrations of CBD and also other beneficial cannabinoids such as CBC, CBG, CBDA, and CBDV. These beneficial cannabinoids are not intoxicating and are being studied scientifically for a wide variety of health benefits. Cannabinoids work synergistically with each other which is known as the entourage effect and this synergy creates a more potent product.
  
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08-13-2019, 08:33 AM

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Snake oil, nothing more.
Well, Willie Nelson believes in it so much he markets his own brand "Kentucky Farms" CBD oil.

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08-13-2019, 08:36 AM

I don't think there are really "hallucinogens" involved in the first place, but THC is considered psychoactive. I hear you need a small amount of THC to activate the CBD to make it more effective, but you can use a very small amount that would have no psychoactive affects. I have friends that swear by CBD oil, but I tried it myself for anxiety and it wasn't for me. The most interesting story I have, though, is that my uncle, who's 60 and has MS, hasn't had feeling in his feet for over a decade. He started using CBD (not sure in what form) and started having sensation in his feet again. He stopped using it for other reasons that I'm not sure of though.


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I don't think there are really "hallucinogens" involved in the first place, but THC is considered psychoactive. I hear you need a small amount of THC to activate the CBD to make it more effective, but you can use a very small amount that would have no psychoactive affects. I have friends that swear by CBD oil, but I tried it myself for anxiety and it wasn't for me. The most interesting story I have, though, is that my uncle, who's 60 and has MS, hasn't had feeling in his feet for over a decade. He started using CBD (not sure in what form) and started having sensation in his feet again. He stopped using it for other reasons that I'm not sure of though.
My wife tried it for anxiety and it wasn't for her either. She ended up making low dose butter in the crock pot. Used a teaspoon of the butter on some toast or crackers, helped a lot without getting her high.

On the flip side if you smear a bunch of it on pancakes without knowing that its a special kind of butter you'll be coasting on cloud 9 for about 8 hours like I was. Way too old for that long of a high.
  
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08-13-2019, 09:58 AM

Buddy of mine is a quadriplegic, lives in a powered wheelchair. Some of you might know the symptoms such a person endures.

He's high constantly. I asked him if he tried CBD and he basically asked why in the world would he do that when he has a marijuana card.

Remember, there is little or no substantive research on CBD. Be most suspicious of those that claim or cite research on it, they are the most dishonest. The companies that produce it are largely unregulated. Just imagine big pharma and what they would be doing if there were zero regulation. Don't think these companies and the people that run them are pious and won't lie to you even to the point of harming you. They are in business to make money and nothing else.



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08-13-2019, 10:04 AM

A freind insists that CBD resolved her sleep issues. She was sold on a certain brand by her chiropractor.

Problem was it was so expensive she couldn't afford it anymore.

I found the same oil under a different brand name. Only difference was the label. Made in the same place with exactly the same method. Just a different label. The one she likes was sold through her chiropractor at a high mark up, and even the chiropractor was charged a high price due to all the marketing expenses of the brand. So there was a double inflated mark-up to the patient.

The one I found didn't blow millions on marketing, so their product was substantially cheaper. And you could buy it directly from the company, didn't have to go through the greedy chiropractor.

So my friend tried it. And I didn't tell her it was the same oil.

She claimed it didn't work and is lamenting that she can't afford the "good stuff". She buys all the marketing hook, line, and sinker.

Yes indeed. The power of marketing.

So many anecdotes, I figured to add a couple.

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I've tried the Charlotte's Web cbd and outside of sleeping very well I didn't experience any other effects. Tried another kind and nothing


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Buy the real deal with bud with THC and it will work.


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