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I told a very good player I beat in Los Angeles that one time, and he got mad and quit. That was ok with me.
This is 2018, dont you know everybody likes to show off how smart they are? :thumbup:
Because in reality they are not very smart. As a matter of fact I am pretty sure the average IQ has fallen sharply in the past 2 decades. Social media (which this is a form of) is a way where you can think through your thoughts over a period of time, reread the posts then give what you would consider to be a logical thought out response. Then as these so called “geniuses” respond, you soon realize just how stupid they actually are. THAT’S WITH ALL THE INFORMATION AT HAND! If it was a game show they would be so embarrassed they would never answer a question. Hence the reality of our society walking idiots with phones acting like they are the only ones on the planet concerned wether or not some other idiot on another planet liked there post.
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Most cases, I will double.
Few times when I wouldn't. There have been times where I won more then 1 set against the better player and I know I didn't have the best of it. I either played above my level or got lucky or some shit like that. I will be more then happy to lose it back but in that case I'm not doubling it. I'd rather play more sets losing it back against the better player.
Few times when I wouldn't. There have been times where I won more then 1 set against the better player and I know I didn't have the best of it. I either played above my level or got lucky or some shit like that. I will be more then happy to lose it back but in that case I'm not doubling it. I'd rather play more sets losing it back against the better player.
Listen to this one. Kinda runs the same direction of the OP.
I was bored and decided to go to my local pool hall last night. I just recently broke my foot on vacation so I am wearing an air boot. Wasn’t sure if I was going to play but, brought my cue just in case. Figured maybe a ring game would allow me to hit some balls yet give my foot a rest in-between. So I am there and well I see someone whom I play 1 pocket with just for fun. Reclusive guy. Known him for decades from my former pool days. Hasn’t changed a bit. So I play 3 games of one pocket. I win 2. Now generally I never beat him. So I am in stroke with a bum foot. As we are finishing up in walks the owner and also a couple guys I play in the weekly tournament with. We are all friends and as I said I figured a ring game. Well, one of the gentlemen I have played before in a money match. Couple weeks back we played race to 5 for $50. I gave him the 8. He wins the first set and we go hill on the second match before we are interrupted by the tournament starting. So I pay his $50 and we postpone the 1 game till we can play again. Which ends up being next week. So we blast the one game and he wins. So I hand him his $50 and continue my evening. Well, as luck would have it or not he comes up to me and says let’s play last night. Continues to say we have no interruptions. I finally agree and we set the game but this time he wants a race to 7 still gets the 8 and wants to go for a hundred. Not sure if he felt he could beat my game or if my foot gave him an advantage. Either way...coin flip, break and away we go. He wins the first set. I am down $100 and he is happy as can be. We flip and enter into another set. He has me down 4-2. I catch up and the match ends up hill hill my break when he says do you want to start over? Now I never understand why people do this but I figure he is giving up his advantage so I say sure but this time he wants to go for $200. I agree. I win the next 2 sets and walk away with $300. He later admitted that starting over was a mistake. I agree it was a mistake. In my case the winner wanted to double.
Bottom line is things like this happen all the time. I personally don’t disagree with what either player wanted to do according to the OP. Although unless you know the player and his or her speed it’s better to let them work their way back at the original bet than to be had by someone holding back and making a sucker out of you when they change their speed and you end up in the hole. If you both even out and either want to change the bet then that’s a new game and a new set of rules where everything can be renegotiated. The amount, the spot and the length.
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I was bored and decided to go to my local pool hall last night. I just recently broke my foot on vacation so I am wearing an air boot. Wasn’t sure if I was going to play but, brought my cue just in case. Figured maybe a ring game would allow me to hit some balls yet give my foot a rest in-between. So I am there and well I see someone whom I play 1 pocket with just for fun. Reclusive guy. Known him for decades from my former pool days. Hasn’t changed a bit. So I play 3 games of one pocket. I win 2. Now generally I never beat him. So I am in stroke with a bum foot. As we are finishing up in walks the owner and also a couple guys I play in the weekly tournament with. We are all friends and as I said I figured a ring game. Well, one of the gentlemen I have played before in a money match. Couple weeks back we played race to 5 for $50. I gave him the 8. He wins the first set and we go hill on the second match before we are interrupted by the tournament starting. So I pay his $50 and we postpone the 1 game till we can play again. Which ends up being next week. So we blast the one game and he wins. So I hand him his $50 and continue my evening. Well, as luck would have it or not he comes up to me and says let’s play last night. Continues to say we have no interruptions. I finally agree and we set the game but this time he wants a race to 7 still gets the 8 and wants to go for a hundred. Not sure if he felt he could beat my game or if my foot gave him an advantage. Either way...coin flip, break and away we go. He wins the first set. I am down $100 and he is happy as can be. We flip and enter into another set. He has me down 4-2. I catch up and the match ends up hill hill my break when he says do you want to start over? Now I never understand why people do this but I figure he is giving up his advantage so I say sure but this time he wants to go for $200. I agree. I win the next 2 sets and walk away with $300. He later admitted that starting over was a mistake. I agree it was a mistake. In my case the winner wanted to double.
Bottom line is things like this happen all the time. I personally don’t disagree with what either player wanted to do according to the OP. Although unless you know the player and his or her speed it’s better to let them work their way back at the original bet than to be had by someone holding back and making a sucker out of you when they change their speed and you end up in the hole. If you both even out and either want to change the bet then that’s a new game and a new set of rules where everything can be renegotiated. The amount, the spot and the length.
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I never would have qualified as a great player even when I gambled with great regularity in the 60's. I was, however, fairly good at making games that I felt were to my advantage. My biggest score was $1700 which was a monster amount to me in the 60's but to big time gamblers, I guess it would have been "ho-hum".
When my opponent seemed ready to "go off" and lose big, I seldom turned that opportunity down.lOn occasion, my little brain would relay to me a thought or feeling that this move has a smell that I don't like and I would resist the chance to raise the bet or double up.
I confess my "brain alert" did not always keep me from upping the bet. I played a guy in Waco in '67-he comes into the pool hall with 2 other guys, asks the manager if there is anyone who gambles a little and is steered over to the table where I am hitting a few balls by myself.
He smells with alcohol and asks me if I would like to play some for $10 a rack(brain gives me a little zing). I agree, however, and we flip for break, I win, and the fun begins. I notice he has a nice smooth stroke, seems to control whitey pretty well but rattles a key ball from time to time. Pretty soon, I am up $70 but I don't believe he is playing full speed. Can't totally put my finger on it because he has won games and made some nice runouts but those pocket rattlers on key balls in a run are dinging the bells for me.
When I get $70 up he says "how bout we raise the bet to $25 a game?" I decide now is the time to find out even though, in many other matches with other folks, I have said no.
I had won the last rack, broke, made a ball and somewhere along the run missed a ball. He has no makeable shot on the ball but plays a 3 rail shot that just happens to combo the 9. Laughs about "getting lucky" and breaks the next rack and runs out. I am not in a panic because he ran some racks at the $10 rate but this situation does seem to ding my brain bell a little more. I win the next rack and that is the last one I win. He wins the next 3 racks, one on a billiard that I saw as a possibility but doubted it would be made. Wrong!
I quit him because it was apparent that he had at least one better gear(I had just seen it) and he might have even another gear or two! You might say, Well you pulled up fairly early and he could have gotten lucky on those games.
My reply is that I had ignored my brain "warnings" the whole match and I decided to listen and shut down the bleeding.
When my opponent seemed ready to "go off" and lose big, I seldom turned that opportunity down.lOn occasion, my little brain would relay to me a thought or feeling that this move has a smell that I don't like and I would resist the chance to raise the bet or double up.
I confess my "brain alert" did not always keep me from upping the bet. I played a guy in Waco in '67-he comes into the pool hall with 2 other guys, asks the manager if there is anyone who gambles a little and is steered over to the table where I am hitting a few balls by myself.
He smells with alcohol and asks me if I would like to play some for $10 a rack(brain gives me a little zing). I agree, however, and we flip for break, I win, and the fun begins. I notice he has a nice smooth stroke, seems to control whitey pretty well but rattles a key ball from time to time. Pretty soon, I am up $70 but I don't believe he is playing full speed. Can't totally put my finger on it because he has won games and made some nice runouts but those pocket rattlers on key balls in a run are dinging the bells for me.
When I get $70 up he says "how bout we raise the bet to $25 a game?" I decide now is the time to find out even though, in many other matches with other folks, I have said no.
I had won the last rack, broke, made a ball and somewhere along the run missed a ball. He has no makeable shot on the ball but plays a 3 rail shot that just happens to combo the 9. Laughs about "getting lucky" and breaks the next rack and runs out. I am not in a panic because he ran some racks at the $10 rate but this situation does seem to ding my brain bell a little more. I win the next rack and that is the last one I win. He wins the next 3 racks, one on a billiard that I saw as a possibility but doubted it would be made. Wrong!
I quit him because it was apparent that he had at least one better gear(I had just seen it) and he might have even another gear or two! You might say, Well you pulled up fairly early and he could have gotten lucky on those games.
My reply is that I had ignored my brain "warnings" the whole match and I decided to listen and shut down the bleeding.
Jason, give it up. Nobody here is disrespecting money players.
Dangit Jason, you're having a tough time getting folks to read the OP.
You should start a new thread with the same plot but changing some of the wording. You know, change the game to "honky-tonk 8-ball", & make the bet cold beers or $2.00 or a mix starting with the friendly beer bet. Don't even mention sets or a race to a certain number.
Just say that Fletcher got Ralph stuck 4 beers and $16.00 then Ralph wants to double up, and ask our opinions.
Hope this helps !!! (May 2019 be your most prosperous year for pool)
Lol. Funny stuff.
Considering I rarely play and gambling is a huge hassle, the $20 I won this year might be tough to beat in 2019. Wish me luck.
Jason
Most of us just like playing pool. Some are really good, some are pretty good and some are still trying. We play for a bit and go home. Some of us play purely for fun, some purely for money, and some for a bit of both and maybe some tournaments. Whether it’s fun, money or tournaments, most of us try not to exploit the guy who is in a hole and if we do then it’s unavoidable but we don’t go on about it like it’s some kind of glory. $10,000 cash game or just for kicks it actually amounts to the same thing.
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What gives pool a bad name is predators who talk about bloodying someone's nose, beating a guys brains out, calling him a sucker...
Pool is an exquisite game that should be played in every high school, every college, in the Olympics, etc. What keep it out is the seedy, sleazy hustler image that is perpetuated by people like you. Most pool players play for the love of the game, not to beat their opponent to a pulp. Sad.
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Obviously you don't play 1pocket.
Nothing finer than to absolutely torture a guy by repeatedly putting him in impossible spots. Freddy the Beard used to talk about the pure, unadulterated joy of it.
More to your point, expressions like getting a guy's "nose open" are part of the timeless jargon of the game, only meaning that the guy is on tilt.
Lou Figueroa