Will this shutdown finish off most pool halls in the US?
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When testing gets more widespread those numbers will grow quick. Real quick.
The % with the flue are stable and likely dropping with the advent of warmer weather.
The % with CV are doubling every 2-4 days. 0.03% today, 0.06% Sunday, 0.12% Wed, 0.24% Friday, 0.5% next Sunday. Sooner or later, that becomes "a L O T of people".
The "lockdown" is not intended to prevent 40%-60% of our people from ever getting the disease, the lockdown is to prevent 40% of our people from showing up in the Emergency room in April 2020. With a goodly lockdown, we can stretch the people showing up at the hospital out over maybe 2 years instead of 1 month. The lockdown is to save the (woefully inadequate, and excessively expensive) hospital system from collapse.
Very good explanation. I really feel sorry for those living in denial.
SBA banks can do it and the loans should fund very quickly. As little as 3 days.
About putting numbers in context.....
https://www.everydaysociologyblog.com/2017/10/interpreting-numbers-in-context.html
https://www.everydaysociologyblog.com/2017/10/interpreting-numbers-in-context.html
Hope you make it sir. How close are you San Fran? Hope not too close.
People on my side of the fence might argue that even without professional baseball, if it went away altogether, children and men/women all the way through college level would still continue to play and enjoy the game.
The same can be said about professional pool. It does not have to exist for masses of people to still play and enjoy the game.
It's just me and my thinking, but I'd be okay if ALL professional sports would just "go away". YMMV.
Maniac
I brought that idea more then once here. It got poo poo all over it. I cant think of anything that would be better for pool then 1... changing the image that is a pool player.. and 2... getting the kids, and most importantly, the athletic directors seriously involved.
Another possible solution is what Europeans are doing. Make private billiard clubs. Maybe someone from Europe can chime in on that, but the private billiard clubs are almost the norm there. Curious if it would work here.
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No, but let us clarify. Big table pool has never been a profitable business. The formula for longevity has been pool with food and alcohol. The food and alcohol part being the key ingredient. Pool in much of America has switched to bar tables because overhead cost. Bar table pool is still alive and well in this country. I am still optimistic...
I've done some cursory research on opening a room in the small towns. A person who wants to open a room and have it be a success should be thinking about how they are going to bring new people into the sport. In the case of the pool room that would mean how are they going to keep it appearing a clean environment for kids. The problem I see is more in the price of the equipment than in finding the right place. There are a lot of towns now with affordable sq footage. Given that who wants the bill for 12 diamond tables? 12x7k with a light installed is 84k.The payments on that would be kinda steep in some of these sleepy small towns. A person better know where his new customers are coming from and not let it become dive.
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I see several flies in the ointment. First off, most pool halls aren't small businesses, they are micro businesses. Small businesses that are much bigger and employ dozens of employees will no doubt get priority over things like pool halls.
Then there is the big chill, the SBA is managing this. Anyone that has ever dealt with them can tell you they will make you old before your time. They will also drag ass for months if not years. Once approved the money may be quick. Very unlikely for approval to be a quick or simple matter with the SBA running things.
Hu
I see several flies in the ointment. First off, most pool halls aren't small businesses, they are micro businesses. Small businesses that are much bigger and employ dozens of employees will no doubt get priority over things like pool halls.
Then there is the big chill, the SBA is managing this. Anyone that has ever dealt with them can tell you they will make you old before your time. They will also drag ass for months if not years. Once approved the money may be quick. Very unlikely for approval to be a quick or simple matter with the SBA running things.
Hu
I'll take door #1.
SS, income tax, Medicare are NOT examples of successful gov't programs, but they have one thing in common, THEFT.
Blaming repubs for the prison sytem failures is a stretch, but I'd rather have the criminals locked up than roaming free to commit more crimes (the platform of the dems).
Back on topic, I think anything more than a month will cause a hit on the number of pool rooms.
Unfortunately for us Bill Gates nailed it. We missed our window of opportunity to avoid these shutdowns that will last so long by not acting in January or February of this year.
The Republicans were large and in charge during this time and they get the full responsibility for not acting. It was and is much more serious than the flu and people lives and livelihoods
are on the line. There will be tons of bad debt and government entities are going to be laying people off which interrupts their time in service which will start them all over in many cases.
They also have participated in the raiding of the public programs to fund their exorbitant military budgets that remain uncut. A hate for SS and Medicare and the failsafes they provide isn't
going to justify the harm being done by a short sighted administration. Some people like knowing that they have a back up. One of the backups people are fond of is their healthcare and
right now our Republican brethren are attacking the ACA without a replacement plan. When you consider the subsidies given the Oil and Gas industry and the 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut and
now the billions we are going to be giving big business in this incentive how is it that we are not Socialists? Propping up rich folks businesses isn't Capitalism. If a business doesn't make sense it
should go away, if we are indeed in this together helping each other then we should do that and stop spewing hatred for each other based on an ideology that pits us against one another.
There is plenty of room for private enterprise to go to market around peoples fail safes that we could use right now. You could always stick up for your beliefs and deny your stimulus check.
Had they simply followed the Pandemic Handbook left for them to use. We wouldn't be in this kind of mess but its only the flu right?
The Republicans were large and in charge during this time and they get the full responsibility for not acting. It was and is much more serious than the flu and people lives and livelihoods
are on the line. There will be tons of bad debt and government entities are going to be laying people off which interrupts their time in service which will start them all over in many cases.
They also have participated in the raiding of the public programs to fund their exorbitant military budgets that remain uncut. A hate for SS and Medicare and the failsafes they provide isn't
going to justify the harm being done by a short sighted administration. Some people like knowing that they have a back up. One of the backups people are fond of is their healthcare and
right now our Republican brethren are attacking the ACA without a replacement plan. When you consider the subsidies given the Oil and Gas industry and the 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut and
now the billions we are going to be giving big business in this incentive how is it that we are not Socialists? Propping up rich folks businesses isn't Capitalism. If a business doesn't make sense it
should go away, if we are indeed in this together helping each other then we should do that and stop spewing hatred for each other based on an ideology that pits us against one another.
There is plenty of room for private enterprise to go to market around peoples fail safes that we could use right now. You could always stick up for your beliefs and deny your stimulus check.
Had they simply followed the Pandemic Handbook left for them to use. We wouldn't be in this kind of mess but its only the flu right?
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This is really NPR crap.
And if we start responding to your stupidity, this thread will be deleted also.
Really a shame. A civil discourse among concerned posters poisoned by this dogmatic, impertinent and vigilant finger pointing. Look forward, not backward and embrace every friend and foe as a citizen of the world, for we must come together at this moment and this kind of bitter finger pointing does not advance the cause of unity.
It is your every right to disapprove of our government, its leadership and its actions, and to favor any societal formula you choose, but please take your political drivel to NPR and leave it there.
History will judge the causes, effects and undercurrents of these disheartening times in due course and with far greater clarity and comprehensiveness than is possible today, but for now, it's best for us to focus on the present, in which we must all pull together to avert a more severe result in the immediate future.
In January, Trump issued a Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus.
The haters labeled him xenophobic.
We can debate this further in a more appropriate venue if you care to.
They provide the *.gov the money to do what *.gov does:: like it or not.
Note:: I did not blame the republicans for the failure of rehabilitation.
I simply stated that the repubs lead the efforts to get rid of the rehabilitation programs in the prisons.
Nor did I complain that those programs are now gone.
Based on current infected count and death rates, we should be prepared for 2-3 months of zero GDP.