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11-14-2019, 12:47 PM

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Thanks for sharing too; nice to hear of a road player who had integrity....also glad to hear he is doing well too........
Joe was a road player and a pool hustler...
...and a great reputation for being a man of his word.
He could give most politicians the last seven for being stand-up.

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11-14-2019, 12:51 PM

Joe has always been a fair and honest person.
He was also a great player.

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11-14-2019, 01:07 PM

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I heard the story that Joe was playing Bobby Legs back in the 60s

After they matched up,Bobby won the flip and ran 11 racks,ran from the break

So Joe's horse ask him"you think we ought to pull up?"

Joe replied "naw,he can't play a lick" and proceeded to run 6s and 7s until he won the money

Joe had a lot of heart for sure.
You know he had a lot of nerve calling me to ask for money when i never heard of him.

That takes heart,and no use anyone else calling me either.

As far as one pocket,Joe tried to teach me how to play,but it was a losing battle.

He was always a nice guy,and often grabbed the check saying"you got it last time"

I remember asking Joe if he wanted part of my action in a high dollar one pocket game
He said something like"do I look like an idiot,no way"


I didn't take it personally


Compared to me Joe was a champion one pocket player,but he needs a ton of weight to play these days,

I was mad at him for turning down Efren's offer of 15 to 5.

I told him I would bet the house on that game,"thats why you let me match my own games
and you will still have the house tomorrow"

I didn't take it personally either
It's nice to hear Bobby Leggs named mentioned. I didn't meet Bobby till he was up in years but what a fantastic guy and one hell of a pool player.
  
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11-14-2019, 01:45 PM

My beautiful ivory pointed Gilbert!😀😉
Enjoy the photos and the story behind it!😉
Had to find time to post all story but here you are a short version. I know Andy personally. Met him like 20 years ago in Vegas during BCA. Joe Salazar introduced me to him since I have known Joe for many years. He was Schon dealer at that time but as always he was carring many other cues. I wanted to buy Andy Gilbert j/b and AE cue from him but he refused to sell it to me during BCA and told me tht he can't sell them as long as BCA and VNEA last since during that time he can sell only Schon cues. So, he sold me those two cues after, when these tournaments were finished. We met at the parking lot in front of Cue Club...I think that was the name of that poolhall and he left and I stayed practicing in the poolhall. I was playing money game and after 5 hours Joe showed up. He was on the way to Texas and after 2 and half hour of driving he stops at gas station to get some fuel. He takes the money out of his pocket to pay for the fuel and he takes it out of the pocket in which was money I gave him. He realizes I gave him 100$ more than I should so he turns back and drives all the way back to Vegas to give me 100$ back. This is what he told me when he showed up in Cue Club!😀
I will never forget that...I was only 20 years old then.
Anyway many years later I was talking with Joe on the phone and he told me that Andy is building him an amazing cue for him and he sent me some photos on the emails. I was stunned. It was an amazing ivory pointed Gilbert in Amboyna Burl with numerous inlays in ivory, silver & abalones. Everything white is ivory. I wanted that cue so hard and invested some time in convincing Joe to give over that cue to me. It still wasn't finished but was close...in the final stage. He finally agrees to leave that cue to me!😀
Later Andy built me matching jump break...of course not with as many inlays as in the player but only with the same ringwork and boxes in the butt. So, this is the story and here you are!😉😀😁
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Judd Fuller and Bakersfield Bobby - 11-14-2019, 07:09 PM

A very good friend of mine, Mr Judd Fuller and myself were sitting around in his shop down in Southwest Colorado several years back and Judd told me a story about being on the road in California with Bakersfield Bobby Hernandez.

He said himself, Bobby, and Trudy (Judd's wife pregnant with their daughter at the time) had built up a pretty significant bankroll for the times and were feeling pretty good about how they had been doing. Judd told me that Bobby came to him and said "hey I've got this guy over here on on the ropes and have the bet up pretty good, give me the rest of our bankroll and we are going to bust this guy. You guessed it, turned out to be Joe Salazar and he busted them...completely. Judd said Trudy went into labor just a short time after that and he basically had to write an IOU to the hospital for the birth of his daughter. Judd was laughing the whole time he told the story!!! Miss that guy!!

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11-15-2019, 07:20 AM

thanks for the story

joe was surely a colorful character,he still is,in a duifferent way

i haven't spoken with him a few years even though we both
live in north texas i think he is doing very good with his cue business

his reputation brings him a lot of people who give him their cues on consignment

at one time many years ago i used to front him schon cues,but once he got on his
feet he became one of schons best dealers,he has helped many cue makers sell
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11-15-2019, 07:48 AM

I bought, sold, and traded many cues with Joe and he was always great to deal with. We met halfway between OKC and Ft. Worth on several occasions to make a cue deal. My favorite Joe story has little to do with pool.

We were having dinner in KC and he told me about him and some friends making a nice little score in San Francisco. They were real young and wanted to get some female action so this guy negotiated a deal with them and takes them behind the pool room and tells them to wait and he will be right back with the girls. Joe said after about 15 minutes they realized they had just been played. LOL

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11-15-2019, 07:56 AM

I heard a good Joe story once and i have no reason to doubt it. Apparently when he was young and living in Tracy he would take his cue on the bus to the poolroom, get the $$$, back on the bus to home. And kids think they have it tough. That's dedication right there.
  
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11-15-2019, 08:01 AM

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I heard a good Joe story once and i have no reason to doubt it. Apparently when he was young and living in Tracy he would take his cue on the bus to the poolroom, get the $$$, back on the bus to home. And kids think they have it tough. That's dedication right there.
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Joe would take a Trailways or Greyhound bus to go out of town-to play.
Once- to Chicago , to play....
with his 1 PIECE POOL CUE "


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11-15-2019, 08:29 AM

Isn't it funny the love between pool players of that era

I admit there was a toughness,a dog eat dog,maybe a certain cllousness
that can harden one's love for his fellow man,but right here in the middle of it all
is love, a little of it is showing in the fondness showed here for Joe


almost makes me want to call him up and buy a cue just for the fun I would have


i remember Arkansas Calvin being honorable,I saw him with a long face in the parking lot of Clicks some 20 years ago. Our only personal encounter involved me getting the nuts from him at Times Square after he had been up for a couple of days,but when I saw him he replied friendly

I opened the conversation,looks like you thought you had a good game

"i did"

"you short?"

I am
Will a couple of hundred get you started again?"

It would

Here

The next time I saw him he quickly approached me with the money and "thanks"

This was about 2 years later,he had been out of the state,we might never have met agin

it's been 12 years since that last time ,but there is still respect

Now for you modern players who are always borrowing and never paying back

Don't even ask,you want my money,get a stake horse and match up
  
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Thumbs up Great - 11-15-2019, 08:47 AM

I heard of Joe years before I had ever met him he played at the Hilltop a Motel with a Poolroom and grill attached and tons of Bar table action. In 1995 or 96 I actually met him at the SBE from then up to 2012 I saw Joe 3-4 times a year and did a lot of trading buying and selling with him. A true class act , I miss those times and seeing him.
  
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11-15-2019, 08:58 AM

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i never heard his name until the phone at my real
estate office rang and when I answered this is what I heard

"my name is Joe Salazar,I am a road pool player,I just went broke
playing a guy who had no chance
and I am calling you because I need money"

At this time anyone with a lick of sense hangs up.But I said,
come on over " and gave him my address

I gave Joe $500 which in 1973 was about what $5000 is today,he headed back on the road saying he would split the profits when he saw me next.

As i said i didn't know him,but about a year or two after this he came back through,called me and met me to split the profits,he had a bid wad of money

When I got the $500 back,I said forget the profit, I was so astonished at his
integrity,I never expected to see him again.

Strangely I kept running into Joe,before he ever got into selling pool cues,
now he is very successful with a wonderful wife and children. I am sure many
if not most of you know him,but I wonder how many of you knew he was
championship level pool player. Especially great on the bar box.

He beat almost everyone in the early 70s

Perhaps the greatest ever, Keith would know more about this than I do

The part of the story that caught my attention is he went broke playing a guy who had no chance. The question then becomes who was the hustler who took down the big time road player?
  
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The part of the story that caught my attention is he went broke playing a guy who had no chance. The question then becomes who was the hustler who took down the big time road player?
"I'm sure 1 time or another-
Everyone booked a loser .
Except Don Willis-
Don said HE NEVER LOST AT POOL ,
or PLAYING PING PONG WITH A POP BOTTLE,
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11-15-2019, 11:05 AM

Who beat Joe with no chance

A local book maker named Max Iberra, ot Topo something like that
Spanish for little squirrell

Really a nice guy,highest player in Dallas for years,how he beat joe is a mystery

but Max beat a lot of people,he also lost frequently

I would imagine he played the 5 under Joe on a bar box,but short set,everything you own on the set
and pool being unpredictable,the table small enough to make anyone capable of getting out

I didn't know anything about who or how at the time

I don't know if Joe returned or caught Max afterwards

Good question
Alsti

I found myself loosing to Max a few times too

He gave me weight,I thought I had the nuts

I might have even had the nuts

But sometimes the nuts is not enough

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11-15-2019, 12:17 PM

Joe was the real deal and a monster on the bar table until he ran into Keith McCready at the original Hard Times in Costa Mesa in the late 70s/early 80s.

I believe Joe hurt his arm, pretty much quit playing for awhile and never got his old game back. Always stop by to say hello when I see him at his booth selling cues.


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