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Right-wing figures warn of looming 'civil war' over abortion laws - 05-26-2019, 02:16 PM

Yeah the abortion thing isn't so charged politically. We just have right
wingers warning of a Civil War. The last time we fought Slavery was in the mix of
issues and this time it seems how our Women are allowed to live and govern their
own lives and bodies. Religion is the centerpiece of all of this. There is a reason that there
should be a separation of Church and State and here it is. We can only hope that the
Supreme Court and the Republicans in the Senate have the guts to save us.

All of this stuff is front page news. Everyone is seeing it.

Right-wing figures warn of looming 'civil war' over abortion laws

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As the abortion rights debate continues, some prominent right-wing American Christians have shared an ominous warning: that conflict over abortion access may lead to a new civil war.

With restrictive abortion bills passing around the US - like the Alabama abortion ban and foetal heartbeat bills, which restrict elective abortion at the about six weeks into pregnancy - America seems divided on a woman's right to choose.

Both lawmakers and influential Christians sources have reinforced this narrative. Charisma magazine, a spiritual Christian magazine, ran six or so articles on the potential of an imminent, abortion related civil war in America.

These articles include a profile of pastor and author Michael L Brown, who blames what he describes as a “coming civil war” on “militant abortionists”.

In this profile, Mr Brown told the Christian magazine: “A civil war is coming to America, only this time, it will be abortion, rather than slavery, that divides the nation”.

Candice Keller, a Republican lawmaker from Ohio, made comparisons to the Antebellum era, where the North and South were at odds over the right to own slaves. Ms Keller said, in a comment to the Guardian: “Whether this ever leads to a tragedy, like it did before with our civil war, I can’t say.”

Similar sentiments were echoed by Matt Shea, a Republican legislator from Washington known for his initiative to criminalize abortion.

Mr Shea said, when asked if the two sides could unite for their country, “I don’t think we can, again, because you have half that want to follow the Lord and righteousness and half that don’t, and I don’t know how that can stand.”

At this current point, is abortion based civil war likely in America? Perhaps not.

Robert Evans, journalist and host of It Could Happen Here, a podcast which explores potential scenarios for a new American civil war.

Mr Evans said that the Christian right “generate a lot of the extremist language in mainstream politics”. However, “there’s more talk about violent insurrection from the white nationalist right than the Christian right, because there’s less faith in politics”.

As for faith in politics, the Christian right is relying on potential legal challenges coming from the abortion restriction bills, as the end goal is to have the Supreme Court overturn Roe V Wade.

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05-26-2019, 02:42 PM

If a civil war happens, it will be, because the Democrats did not honour the tradition of accepting that Donald Trump won the 2016 election, and will win the 2020 election too. That is when it may well take place. The Dems have been the ones inciting violence, (Waters for example) and many others.
The Dems want and need a war , as they have no policies that can outperform Trump. If the Dems had any good policies, they would have implemented them during the 8 year rein of terror on the USA. But they did not. Obama promised hope and change. What he actually did was take away hope and made changes that effected Christians in the USA.


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If a civil war happens, it will be, because the Democrats did not honour the tradition of accepting that Donald Trump won the 2016 election, and will win the 2020 election too. That is when it may well take place. The Dems have been the ones inciting violence, (Waters for example) and many others.
The Dems want and need a war , as they have no policies that can outperform Trump. If the Dems had any good policies, they would have implemented them during the 8 year rein of terror on the USA. But they did not. Obama promised hope and change. What he actually did was take away hope and made changes that effected Christians in the USA.
That sounds like a bunch of garbage to me. What did Obama do to make Christians suffer? You need to prove that statement.


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That sounds like a bunch of garbage to me.
I was thinking that over an impending civil war....... Only yahoo....


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05-26-2019, 04:44 PM

I think we need to overturn Roe V Wade and let the ensuing migration take place first.

This will get all the soft targets more concentrated in a few shit holes and make clean up less work.

This way we can run the rail routes to the FEMA camps more efficiently during the purge.

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That sounds like a bunch of garbage to me. What did Obama do to make Christians suffer? You need to prove that statement.
Allowed changes in the schools pledges of allegiance for a start.
Citing Merry Christmas or Happy Easter , to terms of happy holidays.
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That sounds like a bunch of garbage to me. What did Obama do to make Christians suffer? You need to prove that statement.


He put Muslims before Christians at every opportunity..

Not entirely surprised, with a name like Barak Husain Obama right??


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05-26-2019, 05:48 PM

That's pretty sick.

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Oh yeah, well after JC's post this ought to be good.


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That's pretty sick.
...and killing unborn/partially born babies isn't?


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05-26-2019, 06:38 PM

Fact check and Snopes say you're wrong about the pledge accusation.

The same with your Merry Christmas, Easter accusation and that he remove Christian Bible studies from schools.

Everything you posted is a like or fake. You lost all credibility and you should include sources with your statements your totally un-believeable. Of course you probably knew that but posted anyway.

There is supposed be a separation of church and state obviously you don't think so.



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05-26-2019, 06:41 PM

How about forcing other people to live according the rules you prefer even if it means destroying their rights and taking their freedom?
What this whole administration amounts to is a Christian jihad. They don't care about anyones rights. That's why all the fuss now. I guess when
this all started decades ago no one ever thought it would come to this. Now its a hot potato and its all theirs.



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How about forcing other people to live according the rules
Well golly, I like to speed.....lets do away with speed limits too! Darnit, 'the man' makes me live by a rule I don't particularly care for either... Heck, lets do away with all laws.... Since killing babies doesn't bother some, why not legalize murder across the board! That's what your response is validating.....you might want to rethink that one before using it again for this argument.

FWIW, unlike most in-line with my train of thought, I don't think abortion should be outlawed completely....unfortunately, there are times when it is necessary. My wife had one in 2007. Tubal pregnancy. Tube ruptured. Baby was still alive, but continuing with the pregnancy, neither would survive. However, it should be VERY heavily controlled.....and emergency scenarios only. As a method of birth control, no. By spreading 'em, she used her choice.......


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Fact check and Snopes say you're wrong about the pledge accusation.

The same with your Merry Christmas, Easter accusation and that he remove Christian Bible studies from schools.

Everything you posted is a like or fake. You lost all credibility and you should include sources with your statements your totally un-believeable. Of course you probably knew that but posted anyway.

There is supposed be a separation of church and state obviously you don't think so.
If that is the case, then why is there teaching about Islam in schools and Ramadan ? Oh yeah, that's just for historical reasons. But can't teach the kids why there is Christmas or Easter.
You can check snoopes all you want to. Just go to Evans city school , or Allegany High school and then see for your self. The stores all around Pittsburgh were saying Happy holidays instead of banners of Merry Christmas. Yeah it is Unbelievable that this is now happening in the USA. Very sad, but lucky there is Trump to the rescue.
Also check out the changes being made in the School lunch programs. Must be a coincidence that pork is being reduced/ replaced because of it's rising costs.
More fake news clearly to you.

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How about forcing other people to live according the rules you prefer even if it means destroying their rights and taking their freedom?

Babies in the womb of their mothers are humans and you think some woman's right to her body makes killing these people ok?

And you're babbling about taking someone's freedom?

You are unworthy of civilized discussion.

So don't expect getting it if you are mentally unable to give it back.

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