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Dangers of having a non handicapped league with matches to 100? - 03-08-2019, 07:31 PM

Was talking with a fellow 14.1 league member and he suggested a league where all matches are to 100 with top 8 playoffs.

I've never ran a league but what problems would arise if you were to do something like that? I'm assuming the biggest problem would be the higher level player steamrolling everyone, even though that happens already in 9 ball leagues.
  
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03-09-2019, 08:41 AM

I play in a non-handicapped 14.1 league, weekly match to 125, round robin, about 30 players, top 6 or so finishers in the money. Though lesser players get steamrolled (sometimes very badly) it's still a very popular league. As a lesser player I like it as an opportunity to learn first hand from the better guys and most everyone keeps coming back session to session. I think it's improved my game a lot, more then I would from a handicapped league. Some matches are mostly sitting and racking and that really drives home the fact that you need to stay on the table once you get there. You don't always get to hit a lot of balls, but there's always practice for that.

I think the biggest problem the organizers have is getting all the matches played by the end of the session for the money contenders. Some players out of the money aren't as motivated to get in all their matches other then the threat of being dis-invited to the next session.

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03-09-2019, 07:28 PM

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I think the biggest problem the organizers have is getting all the matches played by the end of the session for the money contenders. Some players out of the money aren't as motivated to get in all their matches other then the threat of being dis-invited to the next session.
So they get dis-invited. Good riddance to bad rubbish,
  
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03-13-2019, 01:43 PM

I would have to second what Slach said. We play to 100 once a week. Sometimes I might only get one win in 8 matches. But it is fun , good practice and always a learning experience. We donít play on a particular night. We call the other players to schedule a match. The biggest problem is getting to people to get their matches in.


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03-13-2019, 04:05 PM

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I play in a non-handicapped 14.1 league, weekly match to 125, round robin, about 30 players, top 6 or so finishers in the money. Though lesser players get steamrolled (sometimes very badly) it's still a very popular league. As a lesser player I like it as an opportunity to learn first hand from the better guys and most everyone keeps coming back session to session. I think it's improved my game a lot, more then I would from a handicapped league. Some matches are mostly sitting and racking and that really drives home the fact that you need to stay on the table once you get there. You don't always get to hit a lot of balls, but there's always practice for that.

I think the biggest problem the organizers have is getting all the matches played by the end of the session for the money contenders. Some players out of the money aren't as motivated to get in all their matches other then the threat of being dis-invited to the next session.

there's a fix for that players forfeiting when out of the running.

do what i do for my 14.1 league, and have a Wild Card. players most complete the season to be eligable for it !! wild card picks are based on how many wins they have per season. then come playoffs they nee to win their 1st match in playoffs to be elligible for money. if they lose 1st round that money that would of been theirs goes into 1st place. I've been doing this for many season and it keeps everyone honest and i dont have drop-outs for the reason of not in the running.
Also you need to come up with a make-up policy....i've been fighting this for many seasons now. and am firmly putting my foot down this season. (2 weeks to play match) if not played the original person to cancel gets a forfeit. the forfeit also effects their wild card. if they forfeit a match during season they are not in the running for wild card.
you can also collect a deposit at the beginning of the season. if they drop out the deposit get put into the league prize monies. if they complete the season they get the deposit back upon season completion.


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03-15-2019, 06:46 AM

The way the Cincinnati Straight Pool League used to be run was this. All 32 players were split in two divisions, all skill levels mixed together. In the playoffs they would run 4 groups of 8 players, with players of similar skill level placed on the same board. That way I got to play higher level players in the regular season (and get my brains beat out) but in the playoffs I had a much better chance of winning.

Sometimes they would group 4 tiers in the regular season, based on skill level. I won that group one time undefeated I think, meaning I was the 25th best player out of 32. Whoopeee!


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03-15-2019, 08:19 AM

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The way the Cincinnati Straight Pool League used to be run was this. All 32 players were split in two divisions, all skill levels mixed together. In the playoffs they would run 4 groups of 8 players, with players of similar skill level placed on the same board. That way I got to play higher level players in the regular season (and get my brains beat out) but in the playoffs I had a much better chance of winning.

Sometimes they would group 4 tiers in the regular season, based on skill level. I won that group one time undefeated I think, meaning I was the 25th best player out of 32. Whoopeee!
that's the way i do it. 4 Groups. last season i had 54 players. and this current season i have 44 because it rolls into summer. last season we had about 11k in prize money plus a custom cue built by Richard Hsu from Brooklyn NY for the season champion !!


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03-15-2019, 09:18 AM

Thanks for some of the advice. Really appreciate it.

BTW, someone seriously needs to consider putting in a system of sorts that can be used to bring back the amateur 14.1 championship.
  
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03-15-2019, 10:55 AM

We pay $10 league fee (plus table time). Winner gets back $15 I think. Loser gets a little bit. Couple of bucks goes to a season ending party and skills contest.


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