Most memorable stiff?

Jodacus

Shoot...don't talk
Silver Member
What's the story behind your being stiffed?

I'll start.

In a college bar I wanted the table for the cheap action.
When my quarter came up I told the girl at the table that
she shouldn't bet a dollar against me cause I was there to
keep the table and the action for the rest of the night.
She absolutely insisted on playing for a dollar. When she lost
she said I cheated and refused to pay the buck.

Another time I was playing an attorney for $500 a set. He lost
the first set and then told me he didn't have the money. I kept
seeing him in the room again and again until finally I asked
him (in front of some of his friends) if he had the $500.00 he
owed me. He acted like he didn't remember he owed it to me
but reached in his pocket and paid. Like it was no big deal!

And people think pool players are low lifes !
 

desi2960

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
you should

NEVER play an attorney without posting the money, count it twice, make sure its not counterfit, and never turn your back.
Last year i got stiffed for 14k, but thats a different story
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
My wife came home from a party the other night and was way eager to earn her stiff...oh right. You mean as in not paid. Forget I said anything.
 

pt109

WO double hemlock
Silver Member
Most memorable stiff?

That would be a strange question to ask a funeral director.
 

thintowin

thin2win
Silver Member
never been stiffed that much; maybe $400-500 total in my pool playing lifetime (30+ yrs). no big secret to it; except always post the cash or pay after every game. the old pool maxim still holds true: i pay when i lose and i collect when i win and i expect the same from anyone i play. the one guy that sticks in my mind is a $200 score off one of my elders. he said he would pay me monday. i found out that monday he had moved to chicago or somewhere. that was the lesson that made me adopt the maxim above.
 

Stones

YEAH, I'M WOOFING AT YOU!
Silver Member
Most memorable stiff?

I'd have to say Cliff Joyner.

'Nuff said!


Stones
 

JTs cuerepair

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Funny

Played this guy one day for about 8 hours, I chrushed him pretty good. When we where done he said I don't have any money. I have been in a pool room about 35 of my 49 years on this planet. It's not uncommon to play and make terms to pay up on pay day or at the end of the week with someone you can trust. And if this kid would have said something from the start I would of had no problem with that. But after beating him for 8 solid hours only to hear I dont have any money at the end when I was expecting to get a good pay day. Well needless to say I went off the deep end and grabbed him by the neck at the same time the pizza delivery guy was walking in the pool room with ten pizzas. He fellt the need to drop the pizzas and defent the kid thinking I was just giving him a hard time but really did not know all the details.... Very ugly day it was LOL
 

Banks

Banned
A few stories

Maybe Mortuary Mike will chime in on that one, PT! :wink:

As for me.. I work a boring 9-5, with loans to pay, so anything that reaches 3 digits is a large sum to me.

1. I walk into the bar I spent most of my time at. Regular that usually spends a fair amount and gambles, asks me to play for $20. We play. "Double or nothing" after a few times and it's suddenly at $320. He says he'll pay me off tomorrow. M@#%$^er comes up to me at the bar about 30 minutes later and says he just lost $300 in the video crack. Boy, was I pissed. So, the next day he comes in. Says he wants to play for double or nothing again. I say no. He says let's play for $70. If he wins, it's only $250, if I win he'll pay me $100 a week until it's taken care of. I win, $390 up. He keeps pushing for one last double or nothing. I relent. I get down to my last ball and choke it. He gets down to the 8 and chokes it. I win. $780 up.. he didn't show up for a while.. finally got $260 out of him. He had been in real estate and was hit for quite a bit in child support and alimony, then the market up and died so he wasn't doing that well. Still pisses me off a bit.

2. Hanging out in the bar, drinking and shooting with a friend. Dude walks up and gets to playing, losing maybe $40 or so to me. The three of us are hanging out after a bit and as it gets late, he says let's play one last quick set for $100. I agree and end up winning. The bar had moved the ATM to by an exit.. son of a ***** goes over to the ATM, I turn to my buddy to say something and he blurts out, "Mo@#$%#er just ran out the door!" Well, my buddy and I race through the bar and out the door after him, but he had a decent jump on us. About half a block into running, I quickly find my drunken feet don't want to run as fast as I'm trying to.. so I ate shit and did a superman slide on the sidewalk half-drunk. I thought I had cleaned myself up pretty good before going to bed. The next day I put some quick bandaging on my elbow. I showed it to a coworker, who proceeded to undo my bandaging and picked the rest of the gravel out of my elbow. Took a little while to heal. **** you, Geremy Hewitt. I found your punk ass online, but you're not worth $100 you piece of s***.

3. Was sitting around at home playing cribbage with a friend. Another buddy comes over(I lived like 1 block from the bars) and says there's this guy that's pretty good that's just taking all kinds of people for $5 a rack. Ok ok, so I go over there and play some. The guy was a pretty good shot, had his own stick, rolled in a few year old bmw 7-series and dressed kinda preppy. Well, after a few games we basically have that table(bar has 4) all to ourselves. I think I was down about $20 or $40 by the time the bar closed. We agree to do it again the next day. I wait and was about to go fishing when the SOB finally shows up. Well, I end up getting back my money and then up another $100 by the time the bar closed Saturday night. Sunday, looks like he's not going to show. I should've grabbed the cue he had left, but the SOB finally shows up to play one more day. I get up to like $300 up on him. He says his buddy should be by with the money. I was like WTF. I asked if he had a credit card.. just buy my a Wii. "Weed? Let me borrow your phone and I'll call a guy I know and get you whatever you want." No, I said "Wii, the video game console".

Since we knew some of the same people, he gave my buddy his car registration(he didn't notice it was not current, bad address) and said he'd drop by the bar the next day and drop off the money. Of course, a few days come and go and nothing. So, I try calling.. no answer. I call his buddy, says he doesn't know where he is. I call the other dude back, his friend answers and says he doesn't know where he is. My friend starts hunting him down. Finds his arse and gets $50 and his address. I call the friend again, tells me to stop calling him.. I tell him I want my $$ or I'll turn his ass in. I call the dude again, says he doesn't know where the guy is(they hung out that weekend we played) and to stop calling. My buddy and I make a surprise visit to the guy's house. Just before we go up the stairs to the apartment, I call again.. guy says he doesn't know, f off and don't call again. I knock on the door. Some guy answers the door, his wife(?) and young daughter are sitting at a dinner table. I ask where Mateen is. Guy goes and calls him to the front room, half-missing-teeth dude that answered the phone is there with a "oh s***" look on his face. Mateen comes outside, swears up and down to come by tomorrow to get the money. My buddy makes the trip over there via public transportation and gets $200 more, with him promising the other $50 and $50 more for troubles the next week. I got $250 of it, gave some to my friend and called it a loss at that point. Wasted all that time, burnt my freakin weekend that was meant for fishing and was just a general pain in the ass. Learned shortly afterwards that the guy has a habit of running up gambling debts like that, but can usually take small bars for a bit at $5 a game. The first day, like I said, he looked like a preppy.. his appearance slowly deteriorated through the weekend, to where he looked like he'd been through the ringer.. messy clothes, shaggy hair, greasy.. maybe a tweaker or something, who knows.

Unless I'm playing with friends, post for sets or pay after each rack if you're unknown action.
 

Johnnyt

Burn all jump cues
Silver Member
My friend and I walk into the Parkview Bar in Rockville Center on Long Island, NY just as a blizard was starting. The place was pretty dead...just 3 or 4 people, one one of which was Punch Drunk Charlie, some called him Crazy Charlie. He was an ex heavyweight boxer who could hit like a mule but took a lot of leather. He still spared to make a few bucks. I know he spared with Floyd Patterson for one of his fights.

The soon as Charlie sees me walk in he asks me to play some $10 a game 8-ball on the bar box. I break and run the table and ask for my $10. He says we weren't playing for anything and walks back to the bar. I follow him back to the bar holding the cue. Forgeting that in bars in NY they only had fiberglass cues so they would not kill someone that got hit. I swung at his head like Micky Mantle going for the fence. The cue shattered breaking two bottles of booze on the back bar and he just looked at me. Then my friend hit him on top of the head with his beer bottle. The bottle shatered but Charlie didn't.

We both took off into the blizard with Charlie right behind us. There wera no cars on the major road so we ran in the middle of that. I had a nice pair of loafers on and the soles were froze and acted like skis. We finally circled back around to are car and got away. Johnnyt
 

Newsheriffintwn

Newsheriff Custom Cues
Gold Member
Silver Member
I started out playing a younger guy some 2 dollar per game nine ball. I kept winning and the bet kept going up to 5, 10 then eventually 20 a game. I actually had my girlfriend at the time keep track of the money (score) on a sheet of paper as it climbed higher and higher. He finally quits and I'm up somewhere in the vicinity of 300 dollars.

He starts him hawing around and says he needs to go to the bank, I said NO PROBLEM I'll drive. I drive him to the atm, he jumps out and puts on a show at the machine. He comes back to the car and says his girlfriend happens to have the bank card...okay

I say NO PROBLEM wheres she at, says its like a 45 minute trip one way...you guessed it, Lets go I have a full tank of gas.....More excuses... I finally ended up getting a bunch of stuff he had in his car back at the hall. Sub woofers and nintendo, games just a bunch of stuff to hold as collateral till he came and paid me the next day...Never saw him again or the money...ended up selling the stuff for what I could get....

Lesson learned always get the money after each set or have a specified amount to pay at.. PERIOD!! No better way to shit on a great win than not getting paid for it.
 

FreeShot

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Some man came into my local pool room and asked if I wanted to play some 2 dollars 9-ball. After winning the first game I mark it on the wire. (Classic mistake) After I win the second game, he is racking and asks for a cigarette. I tell him I don't smoke. He says he is going to ask another gentleman for a smoke. He walks toward him and then runs for the door. Wasn't even worth running after him for 4 dollars, but I got a good laugh out of it.

I wondered, if he had no intentions of paying anyway, why he didn't ask to play for more.
 

measureman

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Most memorable stiff? Had to be the time I took a double dose of Viagra.
That was some night. :grin:
 

smoooothstroke

JerLaw
Silver Member
A guy asked me I wanted to play a race to 7 for 50.He said he would pay me the next day (Saturday) since he worked late that day and didn't have time to cash his check and could we play on the wire just in case he lost.We both agreed that I would pay if I lost and if he lost he would pay on the morrow and play some more.We both agreed that he would probably win anyway...

I win and am willing to play again but he declines.I don't see him again for 2 years.He is running a tourney in another town where I had just relocated to.He gives me a story or 9 kids and multiple wives ex wives and GFs.I tell him he is off the hook on one condition,he can never gamble on pool again unless he pays up.The dude gets real happy and says that is great and what a relief and he will never gamble on pool anyway,he is a responsible working man and father now.

Another year or so later I am back in the town we originally played in.I walk into the pool room and the guy is in a ring game.I go sit close to the ring game,but not real close to the table,but I am watching with rapt attention.He is doing pretty good,his game has improved alot.He looks up at me twice but doesn't say anything,I just keep watching intently.After about 20 minutes he walks over and hands me a 50.
 

backplaying

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I think this might fall more under ripped off, but me and Earl Kellum took off a score of 30,000 in the 80's and our stakehorse took off with it.
 

Luxury

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
A guy asked me I wanted to play a race to 7 for 50.He said he would pay me the next day (Saturday) since he worked late that day and didn't have time to cash his check and could we play on the wire just in case he lost.We both agreed that I would pay if I lost and if he lost he would pay on the morrow and play some more.We both agreed that he would probably win anyway...

I win and am willing to play again but he declines.I don't see him again for 2 years.He is running a tourney in another town where I had just relocated to.He gives me a story or 9 kids and multiple wives ex wives and GFs.I tell him he is off the hook on one condition,he can never gamble on pool again unless he pays up.The dude gets real happy and says that is great and what a relief and he will never gamble on pool anyway,he is a responsible working man and father now.

Another year or so later I am back in the town we originally played in.I walk into the pool room and the guy is in a ring game.I go sit close to the ring game,but not real close to the table,but I am watching with rapt attention.He is doing pretty good,his game has improved alot.He looks up at me twice but doesn't say anything,I just keep watching intently.After about 20 minutes he walks over and hands me a 50.

This is my fave.
 

Tramp Steamer

One Pocket enthusiast.
Silver Member
My most memorable stiff was the Birdman of Alcatraz.
He was an inmate at the Medical Center for Federal Prisoners, located here in town, when he died from natural causes.
Since he had no family that would accept the remains, his body was sent to my good friend's dad, who owned a funeral home, and contracted with the prison regarding the disposition of indigent prisoners.
My buddy called me up, and told me about their famous guest, so I went to see the Birdman.
Sadly, very little media attention was given to his demise because he died the same day that President Kennedy was shot in Dallas. :smile:
 

OUSooner

Known Fish
Silver Member
I played a guy a $100 set one time. We each posted a bill on the light. When I won the set I reached up for the money and it was two $1 bills instead of the hundo we put up there. I'm still not sure where it went although I strongly suspect he put the switcharoo down while I was walking back to my chair.

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ironman

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I played a guy a $100 set one time. We each posted a bill on the light. When I won the set I reached up for the money and it was two $1 bills instead of the hundo we put up there. I'm still not sure where it went although I strongly suspect he put the switcharoo down while I was walking back to my chair.

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in this situation, always put your playing cue away, grab a house cue, and go to work.
 

poolrod

I like old school
Silver Member
I was at a nice comfy tavern once, just once,lol. it was called Trudys, in SeaTac area. Seattle,Wa. I walked in and Trudy was behind the bar, a guy had another guy in the corner, punching him, over and over and over. He stopped every couple minutes and said, I love you Trudy, she said, I love you too sweety. He went back to punching the guy,etc.etc. I went to the back of the the bar, and a gambler was sitting there drinking a beer. We started at $50 a rack, I had him stuck $400 in no time flat. His cash was in my pocket. Right after I broke the next rack, he showed me a gun, and said when were done here, we will be even. I gave him his $400 and walked out.
 

dafatman

Registered
One night a local kid from a nearby town came into our room with two strangers. One of them says "I play pretty good does anyone want to play some $100 sets?" One of the best players in the room says he'll play and we have all these sweaters on the rail. First set goes to our guy when when stranger dogs it.

Now the 2nd stranger(stakehorse), who's goin outside on the cell phone the entire time play is going on, sets up a bunch of side bets and our sweaters go for it. 2nd set goes to the stranger and "Cell" man collects about $400. Same bets third set, set is going big for our guy. As our guy is ready the shoot the 7 for a cinch 8,9 and the set, "Player" stops and says "wait, my stakehorse needs to see this to know that I lost and am not "conning" him, and he's out on the cell phone. I'll go get him." A couple of the sweaters said "you ain't goin no where."

He says " I ain't leaving there's my leather jacket and cue and case right there"

I'm working the bar and after about 5 minutes I said to my regulars "I can't believe you clowns let him leave." They jumped up went out and couldn't find either one. Everyone ran for the leather(raggedy ass) jacket, the cue (players sneaky pete) and tube case with a hole in the bottom.

The local kid who came in with them was still playing on the next table and everyone turned on him. He says "wait a minute I rode up here with them, I just met them. I'm stuck with no ride and they left with my new Tommy Hilfiger jacket in their car!!!"

Then when I finally stopped laughing, we had to wrestle the jacket from two of the sweaters and our player sold it for some of his money, and I let him have the players cue for table time. I still laugh to this day.
 
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