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01-10-2018, 11:22 AM

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What is the difference between an Altima and a bmw? Both can get you there.
That is a very poor analogy. Even someone who is not a car person can easily tell the difference between a Nissan and a BMW/Porsche/Mercedes/Bentley/Saleen/etc. with just a short drive. Whereas the difference between a nice $600 production cue and a $3k Tascarella/Southwest/Black Boar/Zamboti may not be as readily apparent even after a month of use, or maybe ever.
  
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01-10-2018, 12:46 PM

As an example, my first South West I waited 4 months for and cost $260.00. As the reputation of Jerry Franklin and South West Cues became more recognized as a quality product, the second several years later was a 3 year wait and $500.00. I can't afford one now and don't want to wait the 9 or so years for one. Buying on the secondary market can be very, very expensive nowadays. I've known guys who ordered one and turned around and sold it the same day they received it or the next day.


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01-10-2018, 12:48 PM

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Alphadog-I get it's brand name vs generic concept.
Thought there might be something more to it.
No you didnt get my point, I rest my case.


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01-10-2018, 01:50 PM

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The names are usually earned due to a history of craftsmanship, playability and builder integrity.
But one person's playability may be another's worthless junk. I've shot with $4000+ cues that I would find unplayable. Beautiful on the wall, nasty on the table. I have recently played with $60 commercial cues that hit the ball fine.


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01-10-2018, 03:10 PM

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But one person's playability may be another's worthless junk. I've shot with $4000+ cues that I would find unplayable. Beautiful on the wall, nasty on the table. I have recently played with $60 commercial cues that hit the ball fine.
But that $60 cue will probably warp in a fairly short time.

Some expensive cues are works of art rather than great playing cues, and are better off in a showcase on someone's wall. But others are hand crafted by great cue makers with outstanding records for being great playing cues. Players just have to do their homework.


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01-10-2018, 03:19 PM

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In some cases,,,, not very long.
I'm still waiting for my custom Bissell conversion


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01-10-2018, 03:54 PM

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What makes a cue so expensive?
Say a Scruggs, a Gilbert, a Southwest etc.
The law of supply and demand.
  
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01-10-2018, 06:49 PM

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That is a very poor analogy. Even someone who is not a car person can easily tell the difference between a Nissan and a BMW/Porsche/Mercedes/Bentley/Saleen/etc. with just a short drive. Whereas the difference between a nice $600 production cue and a $3k Tascarella/Southwest/Black Boar/Zamboti may not be as readily apparent even after a month of use, or maybe ever.
Give me 10 of each, pair each with a production cue and I bet I am right more than I'm wrong.

Oem Altima vs. bimmer? I bet I go 10/10.

Not sure whose team I am on.


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01-11-2018, 07:51 AM

My point Alphadog is that I can use a $600 Nova or $1000 Jim Buss and then use a $2500 Southwest and don't see a difference. That's all I was getting at.
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01-11-2018, 07:58 AM

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My point Alphadog is that I can use a $600 Nova or $1000 Jim Buss and then use a $2500 Southwest and don't see a difference. That's all I was getting at.
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I get what you are saying.

I also understand what the Alphadog is saying.

Here might be another way of looking at what you are asking:

Why is a NASCAR race car so expensive compared to other cars?

I can drive a Ford mustang around the track at Daytona the same (safe) speed as a NASCAR race car, and I can't tell the difference between the 2. (meaning I can't possibly drive the race car very much faster safely)

Dale Jr. on the other hand can tell the difference.

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01-11-2018, 08:15 AM

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The law of supply and demand.
This is essentially it.

The price of a good is simply determined by the existence of someone willing to purchase that good for that price. That is all.
  
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01-11-2018, 08:41 AM

Value is subjective. That's an important point.

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The implications of this idea are profound. All economics begins and ends with something rather illusive: the private states of people’s minds....

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But that $60 cue will probably warp in a fairly short time.
Actually it probably won't if you treat it right. And if it does - well, Stephen Hendry did ok.
  
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Actually it probably won't if you treat it right. And if it does - well, Stephen Hendry did ok.
Well, yeah, but he couldn't even afford a jointed cue.

See https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...r.cliveeverton for some info on it.

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01-11-2018, 11:18 AM

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Give me 10 of each, pair each with a production cue and I bet I am right more than I'm wrong.

Oem Altima vs. bimmer? I bet I go 10/10.

Not sure whose team I am on.
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